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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Alex Rowley

David Menzies mentioned the number of bankruptcies that are pursued by local authorities in relation to council tax debt. Do we need to look at that? There is a feeling that local authorities will go after individuals, but every year they write off millions of pounds that are owed to them by corporations and others. Is the public sector’s approach fair? Is it just the case that it is easier to go after individuals for small amounts than it is to go after corporates and companies?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Alex Rowley

Okay. Thank you.

11:00  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 March 2022

Alex Rowley

Do the other witnesses have any views on whether the bill is actually needed?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

Good morning. I will begin by asking a question about availability of data. Earlier this week, we learned about waiting times. There are 680,000 people on NHS waiting lists, which means that one in eight Scots is on such a list. When it comes to data, is it possible to determine a relationship between a person’s cause of death and whether they were on a waiting list? If we want to understand excess deaths, how do we understand the impact of people’s being on those unacceptably long waiting lists? I ask Dr Miles to comment.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

The RCGPS’s submission recommends that

“To increase the support and care that GPs and their teams can provide for those patients, mental health clinicians should be made available to all GP practices”.

One of the reported outcomes of the lockdowns and two years of Covid has certainly been an increase in mental health issues. I have no doubt that GPs will have seen that. What is the current position in that respect?

Secondly, with regard to integration joint boards, is integration going right down to medical practices, with mental health, social work and other services all being available through them? Are we seeing that level of integration across Scotland, or is the situation patchy?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Acts Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

At this point, I believe that it is proportionate and reasonable for the Government to make the extension. We should not take our eye off the fact that we are not through this situation by any means. The longer term raises a different issue, and it is an issue that this and other committees will debate, but I do not think it is unreasonable to have a six-month extension.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Acts Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

There is a thing called political balance.

It is not unreasonable to look for an extension of the powers for another period of time, given where we are, Deputy First Minister. If you were saying that you wanted the powers for ever more, that would be a different matter. That is why I welcome the announcement that work will be done on future pandemics.

Professor Leitch talked about possible variants. I worry that we are starting to get to a point where everybody thinks that the pandemic is over and we can get back to some kind of normality.

On the reports that are coming in the spring, are you considering a proposal for how we prepare and plan Scotland-wide? You say that you are talking to local authorities. Are we looking at regional approaches throughout Scotland so that we are prepared at a regional level?

Part of the evidence that we heard this morning from the Royal College of GPs was that, seven years on from the incorporation of health and social care into the integration joint boards, it is hit or miss at the local level as to whether services such as mental health and social work are joined up and working at the GP level. It is fine to have big, central plans, but we do not seem to be able to get them through on the ground and put in place a decentralised system of governance that delivers.

11:15  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

Professor Elder, are you able to comment about the ability to collect data and understand the impact of those large—massive—waiting lists?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement, Coronavirus Acts Reports and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

Should we not be saying to each health board that they need to identify exactly what the demands are in their area and start to bring forward some kind of proposal for how they will meet those demands?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Alex Rowley

I return to a point that Murdo Fraser was speaking about. Dr Thomson, my understanding is that it takes 11 years to train an emergency department consultant. I took the point that Professor Elder made about continuing to recruit from abroad. Given the pressures and the massive staffing shortages right now, is there any type of short-term activity that the Government should be undertaking to bridge the gap between the length of time that it takes to train a consultant and the problems that we have right now?