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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

On that point, should we aim for reporting either within 24 hours or by the end of the school day, although with room for exceptions, because the point has been made that some parents might react badly if their child has been in trouble?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

At the moment, an independent or grant-aided school does not have much of a relationship with the local authority where it is located, does it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

If I heard you correctly, you said that it would be for the local education authority to decide what training teachers need, but the cabinet secretary, speaking as a teacher, seemed to suggest that each individual teacher should decide what they need. I presume that the middle ground would be to have headteachers deciding on the training that their staff need. What are your thoughts on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

De-escalation has been emphasised in the evidence that we received from some witnesses. For example, a big emphasis was placed on it by Donaldson’s, which seems to have gone to the other extreme of saying, “We will not use physical restraint and it is all about de-escalation.” The fact that it has two adults for every pupil helps with that, though.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

The committee heard the suggestion that, because they are unsure about what they can and cannot do, some teachers hold back and do not get involved in situations when they feel that perhaps they should, and that giving training on physical techniques and so on might encourage teachers to get more involved physically, so we could see an increase in physical interventions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

I take your point that we might not want that level of detail to be in the bill. However, the issue of reporting has concerned some grant-aided and independent schools so they have raised that with us.

I will move on to the question of training, which has been touched on already. The idea of there being a list of training providers has also created something of a response. Would councils that already do a lot of in-house training still be able to do that, or would they need to go to an external provider?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

We have touched on some of the issues that I want to raise already, but I would like to pin down what is proposed for reporting. It seems to me that there are three main options: a school reports to the local authority where the children come from, which might or might not be the local authority where the school is; a school reports to the local authority where the school is; or a school reports purely at a national level. Am I right in saying that you are leaning towards a school reporting to the local authority where the school is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

But if you do not get the de-escalation right, are you not more likely to get into a physical situation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

Should that training become part of initial teacher training?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

John Mason

As well as regulating physical restraint, is it important to regulate the de-escalation that might prevent it?