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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

The issue of training has already been touched on by others. As Mr Greer has pointed out—it is a point that I was going to raise—it was brought to the committee’s attention that, as you have suggested already, teachers are perhaps fearful of restraining kids in any way at the moment. More training—and, indeed, more standardised training—might, in a sense, reassure teachers that they can use restraint, which might, in turn, lead to an increase in its use. Would that concern you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Could any teacher not be in a situation where there needs to be physical intervention—for example, if a secondary 6 pupil is bashing an S1 who has special needs?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

That is helpful; thank you. What about management accounts? I take it that they are being produced monthly. Who gets to see those? Can we see them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

I do not know what the convener thinks, but I would quite like to see anything that we can have. That would be great. I would like to see quite a lot, including any draft accounts for 2024 or 2025—I am more interested in the accounts than some of my colleagues are.

You mentioned the audit and risk committee and the finance and policy committee. Do they meet more often nowadays because you have had financial problems?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Yes, exactly. Some people will get trained up to a high level and then they will train within the local authority. Does that fit with this model?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

In a sense, my concern is the opposite of the convener’s, because I wonder whether the SFC is doing what the Government wants. It seems that the university is drifting somewhat. There is no permanent principal in place. Is the SFC not guilty of being a bit hands-off?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Is the SFC moving fast enough?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

There is quite a lot in this. An issue that has been raised with us is that the de-escalation side of things is, or should be, a key part of the training. I fully accept that some of that applies whether the bill goes through or not. Is it the case that some teachers get all the training—three days a year or whatever it might be—while other teachers get nothing? Is it more of a sliding scale, in that all teachers need and might get training on de-escalation? I am not familiar with the position, but is it the case that, at the more serious end of physical restraint, the training would only be for a minority of teachers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

It has been suggested that, under the previous regime, financial information did not go to court members or to those committees far enough in advance for people to consider it and to ask questions. Has that changed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

I do not want to be too personal about this, but you are both in interim positions. Can you tell us anything about why that is the case? Does neither of you want to be permanently appointed, or is it felt that the two of you are there to rescue things and then somebody else will come in to take things forward?