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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

My next question is about the idea that fostering agencies should be charities, which is similar but slightly different to saying that they should not make profits. Mr Forde, do you have any thoughts about that? Is it right to treat them differently?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Finally, on the financial memorandum as a whole, it looks as though the costs will build up and then settle down at about £20 million to £23 million per year in 2029-30. I would be interested in your thoughts. About a third of that would cover the extension of aftercare, a third would be for advocacy and a third would be for the children’s hearings system, which I think primarily means paying the chairs more. Are those figures realistic or are any of them too low?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

That is good to know.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

We get a lot of people telling us that, if we give them £1, it will save us a lot of money. Ms Smith, do you have anything to add?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

You have twice said “care”. That is the important point—the quality of care.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Do we have any evidence that the private sector provides better care or worse care?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Ms Pasternak, when I go to the optician to have my eyes looked after, the optician makes a profit, so why should children’s care providers not make a profit?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Would you be comfortable if a bit of a surplus was made and then used to do something such as improve buildings?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Is there a fear that some organisations or businesses would just close down and walk away if the regulations were too tight?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

That suggests that everybody should be a charity, as we are talking about with fostering. Would that be an answer?