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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 1 October 2024

John Mason

My question is exactly on that point. We have been talking about the national performance framework for a long time, but it frustrates me that many of us do not stand up and mention it in the chamber very much.

I suppose that these questions are specifically for Allan Faulds. Do you have any suggestions to offer? First of all, does the framework matter? If it lies underneath everything, do we need to talk about it? Secondly, if we do need to talk about it, how can we raise its profile more?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Yes, absolutely—that is the area that I am about to move on to. I will be interested in Education Scotland’s view on this—not just that of the SQA or qualifications Scotland. The bill’s proposals include the charters that you just mentioned, the interest committees and the strategic advisory council, which are all either new or revised bodies. I think that there is already an advisory council—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Yes. The committee as a whole accepts that there is a lot going on. Therefore, the question is what difference the bill will make and what more, or what different things, will happen.

I will ask you about one other point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Is that part of the problem at the moment—that people are engaged a bit but they just do not feel it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Does Ms McManus want to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Do the other two witnesses want to come in on the point about interest committees?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

If there is a majority of teachers, that means that every other group—learners, parents and taxpayers—are all in a minority. They are effectively excluded, are they not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

I picked up on your point about teachers being advocates of learners and young people. However, surely if we are going to have two interest committees, they need to be different. If the teachers dominate both, that would not be right, would it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

Therefore, how will those different organisations or groups change how things work?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 September 2024

John Mason

So the fact that the interest committees exist will be in legislation.