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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Because your submission does not say. It gives the average and the variance, but it does not actually say what you want the payment to be.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

That was going to be my next question—what would you like the figure to be? It is going up to £7.4 million in 2029-30. Should it be double that, or half again? Do you have any idea?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

You are more relaxed about how that is done.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Is that primarily about paying the chairs but not the other members?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

If we played around with that, it would affect the figures.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

I think that the Finance and Public Administration Committee is hoping that it is an estimate rather than a guess. Do the other three of you want to say anything about the financial memorandum before I finish?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Okay. We will chase up other people on that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

John Mason

Mr Forde and Ms Pasternak, you have said more about profit, so I will come to you next. Mr Hogg made a good point about the need to have a clear definition of profit, because the language in the bill seems vague. Section 8 says that regulations

“may specify … how the level of profit … is to be determined”.

Goodness knows that accountants have been arguing over what profit is for hundreds of years, so it seems unlikely that the Scottish Government is going to come up with a definition in 10 minutes.

Can either of you give me your thoughts about profit? Should there be any profit? Should we eliminate profit, or are we talking about excessive profit or something else?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

John Mason

You have covered some of the things that I was going to ask about with that line of questioning about aligning economic growth spending with skills gaps. Andy Witty has given the example of welders, which also came up when we visited the advanced manufacturing district. Are we clear where the skills gaps are and are young people clear about that? It is all very well for us—or for universities and colleges to know—but young people need to know in order to go for the right places for the jobs.

That takes me on to universities. Scottish Enterprise talked about graduates who are in non-graduate jobs, which says to me that we are sending too many young people to university—we should be sending some of them to train as welders instead of to do degrees. I will ask Andy Witty to respond.