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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

Some of the countries have two institutions—Portugal, Ireland and Belgium all have more than one. I am not sure what that means. Is one of them subnational?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

That is right. On page 21, the report talks about

“managing the reputational risks associated with”

the challenge. It goes on to say that, because the margin is so tight, there is a greater risk for the SFC. Is that what that means?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

John Mason

However, as you have said before, it is quite difficult to explain that to the public and to MSPs. If I remember correctly, in the previous review of the SFC you said that the arrangement that we have with Westminster is one of the most complex fiscal arrangements. Is that still the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

I have to say that I am surprised by some of the lines of questioning so far, given that the committee is very keen that we see a big change and quickly. Presumably, even if the membership of the board is tweaked at stage 2, we would still need a core board and a chair. That will not change; the Educational Institute of Scotland will not take over the whole board like it wants to. Therefore, surely we can move ahead.

I have been trying to think of other examples to show that this process whereby legislation goes through the Parliament and the Government moves ahead in the meantime and appoints people on an interim basis is quite normal. The example that I thought of is the Scottish Fiscal Commission. I was on the Finance Committee when the legislation to establish the commission was going through the Parliament, and I think that people were in post before it passed.

Whatever the committee anticipates for the Education (Scotland) Bill—there might be major amendments and there might not be—we were in the same position when we legislated for the Fiscal Commission. As I said, I am surprised. I do not know whether the cabinet secretary is. It is quite normal for such things to go ahead in parallel.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

The way that money has been allocated has changed over the years. It used to be about the nine challenge authorities, and now it is about 32 local authorities. I understand the reasons for that: Scottish index of multiple deprivation data is not perfect, which we have picked up in other evidence. Have you done any assessment of how it has affected those nine authorities, which lost a lot of money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

The word “fair” is always a difficult one. It is really based on the household circumstances now—is that right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

I might get ticked off for doing so, but I am tempted to widen out the discussion a wee bit. We recently spoke online to some young people, who felt that they had not been made aware at school of the range of destinations that are available. I take your point that there is a wider range of destinations, but do you think that all young people are aware of that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

Do you accept the point that a poorer family in a richer area generally does better than a poorer family in a poor area, and that families in the poor areas therefore need more support?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

On that point, as I understand it, the value of PEF in real terms has fallen by 16 per cent since 2017. Is that just because money has been tight, generally?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

John Mason

Fair enough. On a completely—