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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
De-escalation has been emphasised in the evidence that we received from some witnesses. For example, a big emphasis was placed on it by Donaldson’s, which seems to have gone to the other extreme of saying, “We will not use physical restraint and it is all about de-escalation.” The fact that it has two adults for every pupil helps with that, though.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
The committee heard the suggestion that, because they are unsure about what they can and cannot do, some teachers hold back and do not get involved in situations when they feel that perhaps they should, and that giving training on physical techniques and so on might encourage teachers to get more involved physically, so we could see an increase in physical interventions.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
If I heard you correctly, you said that it would be for the local education authority to decide what training teachers need, but the cabinet secretary, speaking as a teacher, seemed to suggest that each individual teacher should decide what they need. I presume that the middle ground would be to have headteachers deciding on the training that their staff need. What are your thoughts on that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
I take your point that we might not want that level of detail to be in the bill. However, the issue of reporting has concerned some grant-aided and independent schools so they have raised that with us.
I will move on to the question of training, which has been touched on already. The idea of there being a list of training providers has also created something of a response. Would councils that already do a lot of in-house training still be able to do that, or would they need to go to an external provider?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
We have touched on some of the issues that I want to raise already, but I would like to pin down what is proposed for reporting. It seems to me that there are three main options: a school reports to the local authority where the children come from, which might or might not be the local authority where the school is; a school reports to the local authority where the school is; or a school reports purely at a national level. Am I right in saying that you are leaning towards a school reporting to the local authority where the school is?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
As well as regulating physical restraint, is it important to regulate the de-escalation that might prevent it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
That will vary quite a lot. There are specialist schools—one like Donaldson’s being the gold standard—and special needs schools, but there are also mainstream schools where you might end up with two kids hitting each other, or a kid hitting a teacher. Any teacher in any school could end up in a confrontation where there is a need for physical intervention, which implies that every teacher needs training in that area.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
But if you do not get the de-escalation right, are you not more likely to get into a physical situation?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
John Mason
Should that training become part of initial teacher training?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 November 2025
John Mason
If we put a tax on each one of them, the cost of collecting it would be horrendous.