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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Can you spell out the difference that it could have made if we had had better and more frequent medium-term financial strategies in the past few years? You mentioned capital projects and workforce planning. Where might it have made a difference to those things, as well as to other aspects in the future? There are many capital projects—we want to build more houses and dual the A9—but we will not know what the capital budget is, so can we plan ahead?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

John Mason

Okay. On a slightly different subject, you are a bit sceptical about the committees doing year-round work if they do not have enough information from the Government to do it. Can you expand on that? I am keen on the idea that the committees do work throughout the year in relation to the budget. For example, the Education, Children and Young People Committee has been looking at the situation at Dundee university, which has become quite a challenge. I see that as part of that committee’s budget work—it is not coming from the Government, it is coming from the circumstances and the situation around funding for universities. Do you not think that it is possible for the committees to do a lot of their budget work regardless of whether they get information from the Government?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

John Mason

As the member has pointed out, everyone must have confidence in whatever we end up with. None of the suggestions today is perfect—that is agreed—but they are not even good enough to give confidence to everybody. Does he agree that we are not yet at the stage of agreeing on one of the options?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

John Mason

Setting up a completely new body flies in the face of where Parliament seems to be going. The Finance and Public Administration Committee is especially keen on not setting up completely new bodies, as there is a considerable cost to that. Scotland is a small country, and we should surely be able to do things in a more simple way and have fewer public bodies rather than increase their number.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

John Mason

The member gives different examples, but we also have good examples in the form of His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary in Scotland and His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Prisons for Scotland. Those are not legally separate organisations, but they are respected for their independence. Would he accept that it is possible, within one organisation, to have a degree of independence? A lot depends not on what is in the legislation but, as I think that we found with the SQA, on the people who are involved. If they perform, the system will work; if they do not, the system will not work.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

John Mason

Does Stephen Kerr accept that, although it is very easy to say that there is a problem—and we might all accept that there is—there is not a neat solution? Does he accept that, whatever we do in this situation, it will not be perfect? It might be a little better or worse than what we have at the moment, but there is no neat and tidy solution that ticks all the boxes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

I will continue on that theme and play devil’s advocate. As Liz Smith has pointed out, things can happen in the very short term, whether that be changes to employer national insurance contributions, welfare or American tariffs—or all of those things. Given that, is there any point in making five-year forecasts, let alone 50-year forecasts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

There is one final area that I want to touch on. Both the SFC and the OBR are thinking of doing more on the expenditure side in general, rather than just looking at tax forecasts and social security. I think that the OBR is further down that route. Would that be helpful? Is it a good idea?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 22 April 2025

John Mason

That is great. Thanks very much for your help.