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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
That is fair.
The draft procedure contains different stages and processes, including that of “informing” the complainer
“that they may be accompanied by a trade union representative or work colleague.”
It struck me that there is no space for legal representation at that point. Could the person bring along a lawyer, or could the trade union decide that it might have a lawyer involved as part of its team?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
Maybe I can pursue that a little further, because I was also thinking along those lines. The draft procedure says that it will be for the First Minister
“to decide on the appropriate response.”
Later, it says:
“The First Minister may wish to consider any lessons relevant to ensuring awareness”.
At first reading, that struck me as being a bit weak. I take your point that it is the First Minister’s decision, but would it be right to say that Parliament has the ultimate decision on that? You have experienced the concept of a vote of no confidence.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
I will move on to my final question. The table towards the end of the implementation plan says that an
“updated version of the Ministerial Code”
will be published
“within three months of publication of the updated Procedure.”
Is that still the target?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
So if somebody wanted to bring along a lawyer, that would—
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
That is helpful.
Moving to more specific points, I note that the Deputy First Minister’s letter in the annex to paper 1 talks about “further engagement”, including, obviously, with the committee and specifically with the trade unions. Mr Swinney has already said that the trade unions have been involved. Is it fair to say that they are basically happy with the policy?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
The seriousness of the matter would largely be considered case by case.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
Therefore, ultimately, the First Minister does not really have the final decision.
As a more general question, in your opening statement, which the convener quoted, you talked about a culture in which people have confidence and can engage constructively. Later, you talked about having a positive culture. How far away are we from that at the moment?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
Absolutely. However, if there was a blatant case in which it was found by the external system that somebody had been guilty of something and that the First Minister at the time had ignored that, could Parliament not still come in at that point?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2022
John Mason
Thank you.
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 20 January 2022
John Mason
In yesterday’s Herald newspaper, there was a column by Stuart Patrick, who is the chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce. He argues that this is the time to move within the four harms framework, give less priority to direct health harm and give more priority to other health, social and economic impacts. Obviously, he is particularly interested in the economic side. How does the cabinet secretary respond to that?