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COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 31 March 2022
John Mason
Sticking with bankruptcy, there is a question around electronic communications. We have all moved on in that respect during the pandemic. The point was made, however, by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland—of which I am a member—that creditors are perhaps more ready, able and willing to operate in the electronic environment, whereas debtors might not be so much. The suggestion is that we should perhaps consider creditors and debtors differently from that point of view. Even debtors who had been able to communicate electronically might not be able to do so as their financial situation gets worse.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
That is helpful, because we are talking about leadership in Scotland, and there is clearly leadership outside the public sector and the voluntary sector. I get that.
I will follow up the convener’s line of questioning. I have always wondered, and continue to wonder, whether some things are just too vague. I know that when you go down the levels you get a bit more detail, but let me give an example.
One of the 11 national outcomes is:
“We are healthy and active”.
I do not see anyone around the table—indeed, there is probably no one in Scotland—saying, “Oh, that is a bad aim. We should not be healthy or active.” Obviously, everyone wants that outcome to be achieved, but people do not talk about it, or at least they do not talk about it in relation to the national performance framework; they just say that we should be healthy and active or whatever. Is there a fundamental problem that the outcomes are too vague?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
Okay.
Finally, I want to touch on the ideal, in terms of where we are going. Figure 1 on page 9 of the report talks about budgets. I quite like the idea of having a “Basic” level, then “Progressing” and “Advanced”, and then the ideal, which is called the “Leading Edge”. It mentions
“Budgets additionally shared with other organisations”.
In other words, the leading edge organisations work so closely together that they share their budgets. That is quite an aspiration. Is it practical? Is it happening? Can it happen?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
I take the point that we could start anywhere in the circle and, if one or two people start referring more often to the national framework and so on, other people will catch on.
I was a bit surprised that the Parliament came out in a positive light. The Scottish Parliament information centre said:
“There are some good examples across all categories of organisation, not least in the work of parliamentary committees”.
Much as I respect SPICe, I have sat on a lot of parliamentary committees that have never—or hardly ever—mentioned the NPF.
Figure 3, on page 15 of your report, says:
“Parliamentary scrutiny recognises and values individuals and collective (whole system delivery).”
Where do we go in Parliament? Do you have any advice for us? Should we be using the words “national performance framework” a bit more in order to raise awareness?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
You do not want to give me a bad example.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
I have a question about where the NPF is working, or not working, and you might want to praise somebody, but might not want to embarrass somebody else. Can you give us good or bad examples of where you feel progress is being made, or where somebody is doing it well, whether that is a council, a health board, the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations or whatever?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
It does. We could spend a lot longer on this, but I will leave it there, convener.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 29 March 2022
John Mason
I confess that I am not aware of the Scottish Leaders Forum and exactly how it came about or what it is for. I note that the third sector is included, but the private sector generally is not. Can you give me some clarification on that?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 March 2022
John Mason
I would like to move on from the issue of access to the issue of the accuracy of the information that comes through to whoever is registering births, deaths, marriages and so on. Ms Millar, if everything is done remotely, is there a risk that it might be harder to pick up on, for example, a sham marriage that is not a real relationship but is to do with, say, immigration?
COVID-19 Recovery Committee
Meeting date: 24 March 2022
John Mason
My experience was that the funeral director was not cheap but they did everything as a package. I cannot even remember exactly what they did and what I did.
You said that it is sometimes easier to pick up mistakes—about whether someone was single or divorced, for example—if the person giving the information is there and you see them face to face, because you can read them. That is true for me and my colleagues, too—things are better face to face. Is there a problem in that respect with going more online? Another issue would be births and the question whether one parent or two are named on the birth certificate. Again, is that not something that it would be easier to deal with face to face?
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