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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

So, you are not against profit to some extent; you are against excessive profit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Yes, and that does not appear in the bill or in other relevant documents yet.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Is there evidence, either in Scotland or in England or Wales or elsewhere, that private organisations that are run for profit give a lower level of care than charities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

So, in a sense, you are arguing that what happens to the profit is more important than whether there is a profit or not, and that a non-profit-distributing or charity model is better.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

Sorry, but I think that those definitions are a key point in this.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

I will probably explore that with other witnesses in the future.

We are dealing with the idea that the fostering agencies would definitely be a charity, whereas we would need to look at residential care a bit more. Is that a reasonable approach? Should the two be treated more similarly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

John Mason

We will follow that up as well. Did you want to say anything on that, Sheriff Mackie?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

John Mason

Both of you mention population health and refer back to what the SFC has said, which is, broadly, that improved population health measures can improve the Scottish Government’s long-term fiscal position—I presume that that will be because more people will get back into work and so on.

Mr Robinson, from your experience, have we ever been able to improve health substantially? Can we have any optimism at all that we could do that in the future? We have problems with obesity, poor diet and lack of exercise among young people, and the issue of mental health is much higher up the agenda now, but it does not look as though we are going in the right direction.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

John Mason

Mr Sousa, in your submission, you say:

“The focus on how much is spent rather than results is as true for health as it is for social care. The latter being a particularly interesting case in Scotland, where government spending per person is around 50% higher than in England, yet little evidence exists of differences in outcomes.”

Are you really saying that there has been no improvement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

John Mason

Yes. Does it need to be fundamentally changed? There was not a major review of it last time. We need to focus on how our economy is growing in comparison with economic growth in the rest of the UK, which is largely influenced by London and the south-east. My personal feeling is that we can never compete with London and the south-east. We never have been able to do so. Therefore—this might be a political question, in which case you cannot answer it—do we need a fundamental review of the fiscal framework?