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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Do you want to come in on that, Ms Manson?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

I am interested primarily in the costs of the transfer, especially staff costs—I know that there are also IT and other costs. I assume that some of you are more familiar or comfortable with the subject. I will start with you, Ms Jackson, and you can push it off to someone else.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

I will just say that I am on the other committee, which is the Finance and Public Administration Committee, as is Mr Greer. The FPA Committee has run out of time and will not be able to look at the financial memorandum to the bill, so this committee will look at the whole thing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Okay. Thanks for that. Mr Lewis, do you have any input in that area?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Does that need to be ring fenced in the legislation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

I have picked that up before now.

Finally, if the proposal was going to cost £30 million, would it offer value for money? The convener already asked you, Mr Campbell but I do not think that we heard from Ms Manson or Ms Currie. We are uncertain about the cost but if it was going to cost £30 million, do you think that the change and the benefits that we might get from the bill are value for money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Merging SDS and the SFC was just a thought, following Bill Kidd’s question. You have made your point. That is fine.

One of the proposals in the bill is to give the Scottish Funding Council statutory powers to look at the financial sustainability of colleges and universities. I realise that none of you is in that space. However, do you have any comments about the proposal to give the SFC more power in that area? The SFC seems to have had that responsibility in the past but it did not pick up that Dundee university was getting into trouble.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

That point has been raised. What about the financial sustainability and the oversight of other training providers? Is it happening or is more needed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Do you think there is a role for SDS or the SFC to oversee the system or to get more involved?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

John Mason

Would you rather that I started with Mr Davenport?