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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

I am still trying to get my head around this; I will give it another go.

If information about community centres and suchlike was more available, is it possible that more community organisations would be set up?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

My big question is about how much money we put into being ready for next time. Yesterday, we had £500 million of cuts or savings. Across Scotland, there is huge pressure on resources. How do we get the balance right? Mr Rowley was asking about that and it is where I would like to start. Even in an empty lab, there must be a bit of a cost. Perhaps you have to keep a bit of heating on and I presume that the equipment gets out of date after a few years.

Perhaps more obviously, the NHS National Services Scotland submission mentions PPE. I do not know how long a rubber glove lasts, but I think that it has some kind of end date. Correct me if I am wrong, but we could spend a lot of money on rubber gloves and then have to throw them all out after three years. At the beginning of the pandemic, there was a bit of a concern. Some doctors said that they had been given PPE that was out of date even though it might have been okay.

I am struggling a bit to know how we get the balance right. I will come to the witness from Audit Scotland in a minute to see whether there is a mathematical answer to the question, but do you have any thoughts, Ms Morgan?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

That is very helpful indeed.

Mr Robinson, does Audit Scotland have a view on such things? Can you say, for example, that there is a 2 per cent chance of a pandemic in any given year and, therefore, it is worth putting a certain amount of money into PPE stock? That sounds like a sensible answer to me, but there is a cost to keeping more stock in storage instead of having a just-in-time approach so that it turns up on the day that you need it. Would Audit Scotland have a view on that?

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

Fewer meetings and less time in front of the computer is quite an exciting proposal for politicians.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

Dr Phin, I do not know whether you have anything to say on that, but you also mentioned vaccinations. Are we talking about one vaccination per year for Covid—just the same as for flu—or do we not know that yet? Could it be two a year? Would two a year make a big difference to the cost?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

I presume that the cohort of people who are obese are the same people, especially when they get older, who would be at risk from Covid or a similar pandemic.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

I go back to the submission from NHS National Services Scotland. I was intrigued by something on page 5 of your paper, Ms Low. The third paragraph on that page mentions the national contact centre. It says:

“The stability and expertise offered by the NCC will be key in delivering strong vaccine uptake rates. Alternative solutions which prima facie offer a more cost-effective approach to vaccine delivery could undermine the Strategic Framework through reduced or delayed vaccine uptake.”

I was not quite sure what that meant. What are the “alternative solutions”?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

I note the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee’s comment that the timing is slightly out by a few days. Personally, I find that acceptable, but it is never ideal.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

Dr Foster, we have the national picture and the health board picture. Obviously, health boards are under pressure financially. How are they thinking about the long term? Are they keeping a bit more in reserve or ready for the next pandemic, as opposed to thinking, “Let’s fix hip replacements tomorrow”?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

John Mason

Even if England built up a huge store of PPE and we got a share of the money, we would not be bound to spend the money on the same thing.