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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

On the same point, I know that the DPLR Committee has not been happy in the past about the number of uses of the made affirmative procedure. I understand that there is an argument for that in this case.

There has also been a suggestion that Parliament could have used an expedited procedure, which would have meant that the amendment order would not have been subject to made affirmative procedure. It would still have been subject to scrutiny by Parliament, but Parliament could have agreed to look at the issue more quickly than is normal. Was there no option to do so in this case?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

Are we too dependent on income taxes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

Thank you for that answer, but I want to make the point that the COVID 19 Recovery Committee looked at the matter in quite a lot of depth, as did the DPLR Committee. I think that there is scope for an expedited procedure, in which committees would agree to take a bit less time and to look at something more urgently if it is urgent. I accept that that is not always possible.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

Are you saying that the existence of a community hall is copyrighted?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

I am absolutely for data being available. Is the £2 billion quite a rough figure?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

You mentioned full cost recovery for planning and building control. Are some councils not recovering their full costs? Will you give a bit more detail about how the system works?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

It would be helpful to me. Thank you.

We have discussed balance a lot. Towards the end of the COSLA submission, you mention transparency. How do we strike the right balance between transparency and flexibility, which COSLA also mentions?

Sorry, Mr Manning, I have not asked you a question, so maybe I should put this one to you. Ring fencing makes things easy, in a sense—I am not saying that I agree with ring fencing—in that it enables us to follow the money and see where it has gone. People ask MSPs how much is spent on education and so on. If we give South Lanarkshire Council extra money, which it splits in different ways, there is flexibility, but is transparency reduced?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

That is okay. Does the David Hume Institute have a view?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

You raise the issue of preventative spend, which the committee has done quite a lot of work on. We are all sympathetic to it but struggle with how to put it into practice, if we have no extra money at the moment. I take the point in paragraph 7 of your submission that education, housing and employment are key things that can prevent problems and reduce demand on, say, the NHS or other more reactive services.

Do you have suggestions as to how we balance that? We are continually shown the waiting time for accident and emergency at hospitals, which is a big figure that we all get excited about. If we put more money into that, there is less money for housing or whatever. Do you have suggestions on how to get the balance right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

John Mason

There has been a lot so far, so I will try to build on that. The convener asked a question about data being locked up, which I am also interested in. Can you expand on that and can you give us an example of data that is not available and how, if it was, it would help the economy or whatever?