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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

John Mason

It is good that the work is progressing. Have we any timescales for it at all?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

John Mason

That is positive as well.

I will ask my final question. I was a little surprised to see that there is still a section about assignment of VAT in the fiscal framework outturn report.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Ms Killean, do you want to come in on that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

That takes me on to a third area, which you have already mentioned. Regimes in schools may be different from those in other children’s services. Should there be more of a joined-up approach? Should the bill cover not just schools, but care homes, children’s care services and all sorts of things? How should we take that forward?

11:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

A school is a slightly different setting from a children’s care home or whatever. Can we just make the rules for the two the same?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

I think that we would agree with all of that, but the question is who should be getting the training—that is what I am trying to pin down. Ms Sanger, should we be more relaxed about that at this point and leave that to guidance, or should the committee, in looking at the legislation, get into the issue of who gets trained for what?

10:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

But on that point, Governments are not known for anything dynamic. Might it actually be detrimental to have a fixed list, as it might mean that new ideas do not get in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

Ms Martin, are you broadly in agreement with that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

That is great. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

John Mason

You mentioned training as part of that, which leads me to my next question. As you possibly heard, we spent a lot of time discussing training with the first panel of witnesses—most members raised the issue. There was a suggestion that a little bit of training could do more harm than good, because then everybody thinks that they know how to restrain people and they jump in to do that. What is your view on training as a whole? Is bad training happening as well as good training?