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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

Everything that you say leads to more possible questions, but I will ask you just one more. I go back to what you say in your report, under the heading “Responsible and accountable government”, with regard to who the MSPs and elected members are. You say that there should be “a clear link between” how the citizens vote and members of Parliament, and therefore the Executive. I do not know whether we have that at the moment.

I am more interested in the second bullet point, in which you refer to

“The recruitment of elected politicians from a diverse pool of candidates, to boost the representativeness of parliaments in relation to social background.”

We have tried to get a balance between men and women. What could we do to really get a cross-section of society in Parliament? Is that another impossibility?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

Okay. I shall restrain myself from asking anything else.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

So it is fairer to invest in all the kids aged two or three, but we still need some high-quality graduates and, therefore, to be efficient as a country, we have to invest. Is that the contrast?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

I get that. We could spend ages discussing what “fair” is and so on. I will leave that.

Near the beginning of your report, under the heading “What do ‘effective government’ principles mean in practice?”, you talk about the “wide range of ... ambitions” that we have in Scotland, and you go on to list some of them. Do we have too many ambitions? Is one of the problems that we are trying to do too many things?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

Professor Cairney, your paper is full of contrasts or, some would say, paradoxes. Colleagues have mentioned a few, and I will mention a few more.

Under the heading “Fostering equity, fairness, or justice”, you talk about the focus

“on efficiency, using economic tools … to identify how to produce the highest benefits from the same costs”,

but you say that policy

“should also prioritise the fair distribution of costs and benefits.”

Is it not possible to be efficient and fair?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

John Mason

That touches on one of the other issues that I want to raise, which is mentioned later in your report. It concerns the idea of decentralisation, flexibility, collaborative working and all those sorts of things, as against setting a clear ambition for national accountability.

I suppose that I would feel that that is the case; you can either go too far one way or too far the other. If there is a clear, driving ambition from central Government, that means that local government and everyone else will get squashed. On the other hand, however, if you allow local government—or local health boards or local anything—to do whatever it wants, there is no coherence to that. I feel that, ultimately, that is impossible to square.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

John Mason

I was going to ask what your timescale is for that.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

John Mason

I will continue Brian Whittle’s line of questioning. We have heard different evidence from down south. Is one of the problems that some GPs are not familiar with the codes, which is why they are going through the free text route? I am not a medic or a scientist, so will you explain what free text is?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

John Mason

On the point about face-to-face meetings with people, does that vary between different health boards in Scotland? Do some do more face-to-face meetings than others, or is it a national problem?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

John Mason

I found your paper interesting. I confess that I did not understand some of it, but it is good. I will press you on the issue. What is the prevalence of long Covid? At one point in your paper, the figure of 1.8 per cent is mentioned, which would be, perhaps, 90,000 people.