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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
If Strathclyde university has deep pockets and can pay for it, and the NHS cannot pay for its staff, surely the Government has to put the money into the NHS, not into the university.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
Edinburgh university has more reserves than the Scottish Government.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
Maybe I can touch on one or two issues that we have covered already. We heard from the principals or senior staff of Dundee and Edinburgh universities that, basically, they did not have good control of costs or what was actually happening in the university. Those cases were slightly different. At Edinburgh, there is a lot of decentralisation, with different schools or faculties—the centre did not seem to know what was going on, and costs were just allowed to drift. It appeared that staff numbers just kept increasing and nobody looked at that.
In a sense, I am perhaps playing devil’s advocate here. There is an argument that some of the universities got a bit bloated and took on more staff than they should ever have had, and now they are coming back to what should be the normal level of staffing. Do you agree?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
And yet the numbers have to add up—the income cannot be less than the expenditure, can it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
The university’s accounts have to balance—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
The capital expenditure would not immediately hit the profit-and-loss account. The capital expenditure would be separate, would it not?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
They are the lowest that they have ever been. That is a good bit of information to have. Would that be the case for Edinburgh? Does it have the lowest-ever staff numbers?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
I agree with that, but would you agree that, in every bit of the university, the expenditure cannot be higher than the income?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
Or five years, or whatever.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
John Mason
Is that not just part of society? We hear the same from the national health service and from schools. Is that not just part of life?