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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

As you said in answer to previous questions, you are assuming that there will be no change in policy and that both the UK and Scotland will carry on with their current policies. I presume that our figures could be affected by either of those changing. If the UK Government changes its policy, we will have more—is that right?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

It is often said that, for both the UK Government and the Scottish Government, this is a demand-led area and that we cannot control it very much.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

I will continue the questions on inflation. I am also on the Finance and Public Administration Committee, so I realise that you might have answered this question before. Professor Roy, in your opening remarks, you said that the cash increase for the whole Scottish budget was 2.6 per cent and that that was a real-terms increase of 0.9 per cent. The difference is 1.7 per cent, so can you explain that figure of 1.7 per cent? We are putting benefits up by 6.7 per cent; can you confirm whether Westminster is doing the same?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

There is a UK policy and a Scottish policy, but you are assuming that both of them will carry on much as they are.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

I certainly find it helpful to have had the issue laid out in that way.

This is my final question. We have looked at the split of the £1,092 billion. Would I be right in saying that the split will be changing a bit? At the moment, the Scottish child payment is about half the spend, but that will not be the case in future. Will you explain why that is the case?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

I am looking at the overall picture of the additional spend of £1.092 billion that we have to find. I think that I am right in saying that roughly half of that is the Scottish child payment, which is completely ours because they do not have that in the UK, and that another big chunk is the extra money for ADP. Is that correct? Are there other factors in there as well?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

So, they are kind of rolled into the Barnett formula.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, you were nodding at some of that, but should I be worried about the ballooning social security budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I will start with Dr Sousa. In your written submission, you comment that the SFC is quite optimistic about Scottish earnings growth—more optimistic than the Office for Budget Responsibility. Are you convinced by the SFC’s arguments?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, do you want to come in?