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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

I certainly find it helpful to have had the issue laid out in that way.

This is my final question. We have looked at the split of the £1,092 billion. Would I be right in saying that the split will be changing a bit? At the moment, the Scottish child payment is about half the spend, but that will not be the case in future. Will you explain why that is the case?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

I am looking at the overall picture of the additional spend of £1.092 billion that we have to find. I think that I am right in saying that roughly half of that is the Scottish child payment, which is completely ours because they do not have that in the UK, and that another big chunk is the extra money for ADP. Is that correct? Are there other factors in there as well?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

John Mason

So, they are kind of rolled into the Barnett formula.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, you were nodding at some of that, but should I be worried about the ballooning social security budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I will start with Dr Sousa. In your written submission, you comment that the SFC is quite optimistic about Scottish earnings growth—more optimistic than the Office for Budget Responsibility. Are you convinced by the SFC’s arguments?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Professor Bell, do you want to come in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Do either of the other witnesses want to say what is a good thing that comes out of the council tax freeze?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

I will give you a chance to comment, Mr. Birt, but I want to touch on another area before my time runs out. The social security budget is increasing from about £5 billion to £6 billion, which is dramatically more than the budget for almost any other sector. Now, I know that it is demand driven, and we have been given evidence that it is therefore harder to control, but is there a risk that it is running out of control and we need to somehow tack it in? I will come to you first, Mr Birt, because you would like the budget to go even higher with respect to the Scottish child payment.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Yesterday, I met representatives of the hospitality sector. Some businesses in the sector are very profitable and do not need support, whereas some are struggling and need support. Given that you were arguing that, for example, prescriptions should be targeted, do you not think that any support for businesses needs to be targeted for those that need it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

John Mason

Is that for all hospitality businesses?