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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

I think that £46 million was taken from the colleges and universities budget because of the teachers’ pay settlement. Is that a one-off, or will it have repercussions for the future?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

Okay. Finally, on Barnett consequentials, the paper states:

“The Guide also reports an additional £20.2 million arising from a ‘Home Office comparability factor error’”.

Can you tell us what that was?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

Okay. It probably ties in with what colleagues said earlier about what will come down the road.

I will move on to something else. In the section in the financial memorandum on restrictions on the disposal of unsold consumer goods, paragraph 12 talks about the minimum cost being £30,000 a year but the cost being £200,000 a year under a more proactive regulatory regime. Most of us would quite like a proactive regime in a number of areas, and we have just discussed that. Why does the financial memorandum include the minimum figure of £30,000 instead of even going part of the way to being proactive?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

I am totally supportive of what you are trying to do. It is absolutely great. Do you know the costs in France? Did France have to put in money itself? Does this need to be front-loaded? Would you need to put in quite a lot of money and resource at the beginning to change the thinking of Amazon and individuals, and the costs would then reduce over time? Would higher up-front costs be needed?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

Quite a lot of ground has been covered already, so I will start off by touching on some of that. Minister, you seem to suggest that it would be financially advantageous for councils to enforce the rules on recycling and encourage or educate people to get better at recycling and that that would cover their costs in some way. However, the reality on the ground is that that is not happening, certainly in parts of Glasgow. I live in the greater Easterhouse area, and I see a mixture of issues. Some people do not know what they should put in the bins. They put plastic bags in the blue bins, which, I understand, should not happen. In tenements, we have only a green bin and a blue bin, so they put plastic, cans and paper in the blue bin, and the green bin is for everything else—garden waste and food waste. Glass also goes in the green bin, because most people do not have a car to take it to a recycling centre. In all my experience, I have never seen a leaflet about how to recycle better or had someone come to the door to try to educate me or encourage me to do so. I know that that is happening elsewhere: we heard that West Lothian Council is doing that, with people going round the doors. Maybe it happens in Glasgow when I am here, but I have certainly not seen it happening—maybe they do it on Tuesdays.

Glasgow City Council is very tight for money, so if it thought that it could make money out of encouraging people to recycle better, it would do so. Clearly, it is going to cost that council a lot more money to get the recycling rates up. Do you at least accept that it is not cost neutral?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

It is reassuring that the error has been picked up, but it raises the wider question whether the UK Government is making more errors that we do not know about.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

That is right. I fully accept that design will help. However, some people have the attitude that they will drop litter in the street, because that is what guys do; they will not pick up their dog poo, because macho men do not do that; and they will not recycle, because that is not macho. Sadly, good design is not going to tackle that attitude. Somebody needs to go to the doors.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

Okay. Thanks.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

Okay—that has clarified that.

Just to follow up on the convener’s point about reserves, I fully agree that we should use reserves and not leave money sitting. Will doing that put more pressure on future budgets, because it will be something that we cannot do again?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 November 2023

John Mason

If we take Creative Scotland and Forestry and Land Scotland as examples, they are able to top up their budget from reserves at the moment. In future, however, you would either have to trim their budget or find more money from elsewhere to put back in.