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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

That is helpful.

A related issue is how children and young people can be involved. The point was made that the whole system can be very adult centred and, obviously, most of the people in the system will be adults, so how do children fit in? We had slightly conflicting evidence on that. I do not think that people want the learner interest committee to be taken over by children, but do you have thoughts about how children’s voices can be heard? For example, one child at a committee would find that quite difficult.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

I know that you do not want to be too specific in the bill, and I broadly agree with that, but do you envisage there being another group, made up entirely of young people, that discusses some of the issues and feeds that into the learner interest committee? Is that a possibility?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

Following on from that and Liam Kerr’s question, I note that Mr Kerr asked about on-going costs, but we were also told that the reform team that was set up to specifically look at the changes was stopped in March, because of a lack of funding. Does something need to happen in that space?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

No—I do not know whether that was a good phrase.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

You mentioned the learner interest committee. Will there definitely be a parent voice on that committee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

John Mason

Okay, but the legislation sets out that there should be a qualifications Scotland staff member on the committee. Why is that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

John Mason

I do not know what else Ross Greer was going to ask you earlier about the national performance framework, but can you tell us how that impacts the budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

John Mason

I understand that it has a general impact, but would the national performance framework have an impact when there is limited capital spending and you have to make choices—if you have to prioritise between housing and roads, say?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

John Mason

We will be going into this with Kate Forbes later, but, yes, it would be an issue. However, I do not think that the programme for government referred to the national performance framework.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

John Mason

I will build on what the previous two questioners asked.

From listening to the evidence, I think that one issue seems to be that the national performance framework is so general. We are going up from 11 to 13 outcomes and, as you said, cabinet secretary, there can be clashes between different outcomes. I wonder whether that is part of the problem.

Does the national performance framework help us in making day-to-day decisions? I asked Shona Robison a similar question in the previous evidence session. If we have a limited capital budget and if we have to choose between roads and houses, or anything else, does the national performance framework help us to make that kind of decision? Alternatively, is it just a question of saying, “Houses are good, roads are good—so whatever”?