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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

I will move on to another topic. I have had a fair bit of interaction with the hospitality sector recently, and it has been going on and on about how it wanted the kind of relief that was given in England. I think that England made a mistake in providing relief across the board, because it seems to me that some hospitality businesses are doing incredibly well.

I agree with your principle, as I understand it, of targeting some of the NDR relief at a specific sector. You have chosen to target the islands. Will you explain why that is your focus? Are there any other sectors that also need the relief?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

I will finish with a more general question. A number of suggestions have been made about how national outcomes and the national performance framework have informed the budget. Were those elements taken as the starting point for the budget or did they come in at the end? Was the tax advisory group part of forming the budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

I will pick up on one or two points that have been touched on already. Concerning the housing budget and the number of affordable houses to be built, it has been suggested that there might be more private investment coming in. Would that include giving lower grants? Obviously, the Government money goes into housing association grants, mainly. Are you thinking of reducing the level of grants so that there is more borrowing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

Part of that, probably, is the embedding of sustainable development.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

I will not pursue that issue.

I assume that you are always looking at ways of saving money, doing things more efficiently and that kind of thing; indeed, efficiency has already been mentioned. I do not know how often the MSPs’ offices are cleaned, but I get the impression that someone goes into all the offices every night. I do not think that that is necessary. My office is fairly tidy, I think—indeed, people do not tidy it; they just clean it—but it appears that my desk gets rearranged every night. I wonder whether something like that could be reduced to, say, once a week.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

My final question is about the Parliament shop, which has not been mentioned so far. It occurred to me that there is a bit of a challenge in that respect, given that members of the public who might want to buy something from the shop have to come through the whole security system in order to get to it. Have you thought about making some of the products available in another shop on, for example, the Royal Mile, perhaps on a franchise basis, so that we could boost sales and maybe make a bit more profit from the shop?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

Lots of items on sale in the shop are attractive, such as the Parliament-branded chocolate, scarves and ties, which are presumably not available anywhere else, except online.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

Is that right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

I will press you a little bit on that. Other people have argued that it would have been better to use that money to boost the Scottish child payment further because that would have targeted the poorest people. Am I not right in saying that the poorest people do not really pay council tax? A lot of ordinary people have had a 5, 6 or 7 per cent increase in their pension or their wages. They are paying that kind of increase for most things, albeit that they are paying more for energy. Yesterday, a constituent of mine came to my surgery and said that they were happy to pay a bit more council tax.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

John Mason

On a different subject, I go back to capital expenditure. Some of the amounts involved are quite small in the scheme of things but, over the past couple of days, concern has been expressed about SPT, which you said has considerable reserves. From a quick look at its accounts, I think that it has only £12 million of what it calls non-earmarked reserves, which is not a huge amount for an organisation with a turnover of £74 million. It has been suggested that, if SPT does not have funding to put in, work at East Kilbride station might have to be delayed. An example that affects my area is that Clyde Gateway is losing its core capital funding of £5 million, which could put a project at Shawfield in jeopardy. Can those projects still go ahead?