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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Do we leave it to the SFC to work out the regime? There seems to be an expectation that colleges and universities will come to the SFC to say that they have a problem, although, clearly, some of them have not done that in the past. On the other hand, the universities are saying, “You shouldn’t be interfering in parts of our work where the research is separately funded.” It seems to me that we need a balance somewhere.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

It says “we believe”, which suggests that it is your view.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

I am not arguing with that. I just feel that your evidence today and your paper are designed to undermine the bill and to paint it as being as awful as it possibly can be. For example, your submission says:

“we believe that the timelines for current reform means that any benefits or unintended consequences of this programme will not be understood for a decade.”

Surely that is overstating the case.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Does the cabinet secretary have any idea what Stephen Kerr’s proposals would cost in financial terms?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

One of my colleagues will ask you more about the committees later on. I was asking more about the general relationship.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Mr Yeates, if it is all more joined up, surely we are going to boost the Highlands and Islands more.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Is it the case that those staff are in a poorer scheme and would be moving to a better one, which means that there would be more costs in future? Is there also a backdating element?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Thanks.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

Has that been the problem for the SFC in the past? Has it just not had the resources to do the work?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

John Mason

I will follow on from Willie Rennie’s line of questioning. In its submission, Skills Development Scotland specifically said:

“the SFC is empowered to fund apprenticeships, however it is not legally required to do so”.

There is a concern that it could go either way: the SFC might focus too much on colleges and universities and not enough on apprenticeships, or vice versa. Does there need to be something in the bill—such as ring-fenced money—to direct the SFC a bit more in that regard, or can we leave it to the SFC to get it right in the doing, as you said?