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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
To be clear, we are considering the flexibilities that we can provide without getting out of classification. The restrictions will, rightfully, still be in place, but I believe that there are things that we can do. The colleges believe that there are things that we can do jointly that will assist them in their day-to-day operations. We ought to be doing those as a matter of urgency. If some things will take a little longer, we will work on those with the colleges.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
I am alive to that and to the geographical challenges that some colleges face. Colleges in Mr Doris’s part of the world do not face the same issues as Borders College, which I visited a few weeks ago, or the University of the Highlands and Islands. We must be alive to the fact that there cannot be a one-size-fits-all approach. We must recognise that certain areas will have a far more challenging environment and take that into account as far as possible.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
My instinct is that trade unions should be represented on boards, and I anticipate that that will happen.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
We are very clear about the fair work expectations, and the colleges and universities know exactly what those are. The Funding Council has an on-going dialogue with both sectors. Are you asking about the guidance in a broad sense?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
Can I give you a specific date? No. Is the date relatively imminent? Yes.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
If that were to be the case, that would be a concern.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
That remains a work in progress, but we will be happy to write to the committee with as much detail as we can provide.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
I think that it is explainable. We have explained why it is necessary, but I entirely recognise the disappointment and concern that have been expressed by both the colleges and the universities over the impact.
The cabinet secretary and I met Colleges Scotland principals and chairs last week. We also met the Colleges Scotland union representatives on the same day, and we met Universities Scotland. We have had some detailed discussions about this, and they have expressed their concerns—I understand those concerns entirely—but, particularly in the context of colleges, we are already attempting to move on from this jointly and to determine how we can support the colleges into a more sustainable position going forward. We are having and will have similar conversations with the universities.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
I do not think that our language around it has been of that nature. We have just tried to be open and transparent about what has led to this decision.
It is regrettable that we are not in a position to provide the additional money to colleges and universities that we had indicated that we would—that is what we wanted to do—but this is the reality that we are operating in, and we have to deal with the situation as it exists.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Graeme Dey
As I have seen, as a member of the committee and then up close as a minister, the industrial relations are not at all good. There have been disputes in eight of the past nine years. Having spoken to both sides, I think that we need to find some way of addressing that. The committee expressed a view on that previously and I share that view.
The universities are in a slightly different set-up in that the industrial dispute is United Kingdom-wide. There is a pay offer, which has been rejected. I have had conversations directly with Universities Scotland on specific issues that are happening in Scotland and I have sought to encourage it to engage constructively with the UCU to try to resolve the matter.