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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

I presume that there is a mixed picture across the country. There will be areas such as yours where there has been progress but, on the basis of the findings of the commissioner’s report, I presume that, overall, there is an issue, or an issue remains.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

Can we anticipate a quickening of the pace in the years to come?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

My questions are directed to Professor Scott in the first instance. In your annual report, which you published this week, you note:

“Universities Scotland and Colleges Scotland established a National Articulation Forum which produced its final report in 2020. Yet very limited progress has been made.”

Will you expand on that and tell us why you think that that has, disappointingly, been the case? Perhaps you could highlight areas in which you think that progress could be made to the greatest benefit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

I think that it would be reasonable to bring in Audrey Cumberford, given her lived experience of what we are discussing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

It is quite disappointing that, all these years into the process, we are still in this situation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Graeme Dey

I apologise if this is a layman’s question, but I want to get an understanding of this. What is the collective reserves position for Scotland’s colleges set against what it would have been before regionalisation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Graeme Dey

In the interests of time, my opening question can be answered by a nod or shake of the head, or a simple yes or no. A few moments ago, Willie Rennie advanced a theory—a criterion, if you like—that two-year-olds should attract an enhanced rate because of the ratios that would be required to supervise them. Do we accept that that is the case—yes or no?

I am seeing nodding heads, so we accept that that is the case. In that case, Matthew Sweeney, why are so many councils not paying an enhanced rate for two-year-olds, set against what is available for three-year-olds and above?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Graeme Dey

I do not accept that at all. A number of councils are doing that. Angus Council, my own local authority, has the fourth highest rate of provision for two-year-olds in the whole of the country, and it is paying considerably more for them than for children aged three and over. Some councils are clearly walking the walk.

That takes me to the process for rate setting. Forgive me for asking what might be a layman’s question. What is the process? What are councils meant to take account of? Should they look at issues such as the cost of rents in an area or economies of scale? What do they take account of in setting rates and how is the private sector involved in that process? Do they have discussions? Is there input? Is there an appeals procedure if the rates being offered are deemed to be completely unsatisfactory?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Graeme Dey

I am trying to make the point that the reason why we find ourselves in the situation is that there is a lack of suitable accommodation in England and Wales. If action is taken now that leads to a further reduction in capacity in England, despite the best of intentions here, there might well be an increase in applications to house such children. If we are to assist in that, I want to be absolutely sure that we have the capacity to do so.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Graeme Dey

As other colleagues have done, minister, I thank you for your very helpful letter in advance of the meeting. The regulations, whatever else they have done, have shone a light on the whole issue, in particular given the commissioner’s response to them.

I will touch on one point. There is a report in The Times this morning on the problems down south. It asserts that there are “scores of inexperienced ... owners” opening children’s homes, with the inference that that is clearly not good for vulnerable children who have been taken into care for very serious reasons.

How do we, in Scotland, ensure that settings in which those children, or any children, are placed are of a type that we would deem appropriate? Are there any plans to strengthen safeguards further in the forthcoming primary legislation?