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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

As I have seen, as a member of the committee and then up close as a minister, the industrial relations are not at all good. There have been disputes in eight of the past nine years. Having spoken to both sides, I think that we need to find some way of addressing that. The committee expressed a view on that previously and I share that view.

The universities are in a slightly different set-up in that the industrial dispute is United Kingdom-wide. There is a pay offer, which has been rejected. I have had conversations directly with Universities Scotland on specific issues that are happening in Scotland and I have sought to encourage it to engage constructively with the UCU to try to resolve the matter.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

I do not think that the First Minister shot it down, as you put it; he was just clear that the Scottish Government’s position is that that is a red-line issue for us. Sir Peter is perfectly entitled to express his view. As you will know, he was very clear that he wanted a calm discussion and that it was all about taking a limited approach, but unfortunately in some quarters his view was portrayed as being that he wanted to reintroduce tuition fees, which is not what he was saying at all.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

However, that does not mean that we agree with him—we do not.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Graeme Dey

Mr Doris, I think that you and others are well aware that the financial challenges that are faced by the education portfolio are replicated across Government. As a consequence of issues outwith our control, the Scottish Government’s budget has suffered a significant hit. The public finances face what is probably the biggest challenge since devolution, so it is not the case that we can ask other portfolios to transfer money across to education—I wish that it were—because there are challenges for all areas of Government and we have to get through this in the best way that we can.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

Why is appropriate trauma-informed transportation not available in Scotland? It does not seem to be a particularly challenging thing to set up.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

Does anyone want to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

However, you would obviously welcome such change.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

Thank you, convener. I just want to pick up on that point. What is the average time at the moment, and what does the modelling show that it could become?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

The convener touched on some of this earlier, but I want to focus on the physical environments of prison settings and secure accommodation. Some people are concerned about people going to secure accommodation instead of a young offenders institution, but I do not believe that it is a soft option. I have visited Rossie and have been in the secure unit. For the benefit of people who think that it is a soft option, will you outline what is inappropriate about the physical prison setting for young people who have committed serious offences? What is it about the secure accommodation setting that deprives them of their liberty? Is it a secure and appropriate setting?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Graeme Dey

Sitting in there may be the child victims—or the alleged victims—in all this. They could wait eight and a half months for justice, which they may not see completely in the end. By what amount, roughly, does the modelling suggest that the numbers could increase?