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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

You said that money is good, which I think we would all agree with to a certain degree, particularly when the money is going to projects that we want to be driven forward.

Some of the deals are now quite mature compared to the more recent ones. If we go back to the original deal, which was the Glasgow city region deal, in 2014, I remember at that point, or not long after that, taking evidence at the Local Government and Regeneration Committee, which I used to chair, about the ambitions at that time. Many of the ambitions were projects that had sat on shelves for a number of years gathering dust, and there was a bit of competition between the local authorities about which of the projects would be the priorities.

Some of those projects were probably outdated at that time, but some folks still wanted them to be driven forward, and I think that it is fair to say that there was maybe a lack of maturity in making the top picks. Has that changed, or are we still in a situation, even with the most recent deals, where the best projects or the innovative ones that are changing the world are not picked?

I will start with Mr McInroy.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

Some would probably argue that deals have been forced partnerships in some cases, but we had probably better not go into that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

Mr Mitchell, do you have anything to add?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

I want to take you back to the days before city region deals. In the north-east of Scotland, the Aberdeen city and shire economic forum, which became Aberdeen city and shire economic future, was unique in the fact that two local authorities, businesses and others co-operated to drive forward the economy in the north-east. That was held up by some as best practice. It was quite a clear governance model. Not everybody agreed with it, I have to say, but it was pretty clear who was doing what.

Have we compared at any point the actual outcomes from the likes of ACSEF, which did not have a huge amount of government money thrown at it but still did well, compared with what has happened since we have formalised some of this with city region deals? Audit Scotland can go first, please.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

You said that we cannot prescribe, but would not some kind of uniformity be helpful, particularly for the likes of Mr Mitchell’s members? Might some uniformity in how all this operates be helpful for the folks who are bidding to build various bits and pieces of infrastructure and kit?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

Should we have?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

It is not just about the governance; it is the entire ethos. Do you have anything to add to that from Audit Scotland’s point of view, Ms Young?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

I am surprised to hear an auditor say that they would not like to compare what went on previously to look at the outcomes.

When looking at all of this over the piece, we have missed out on looking at what happened, and at the best practice that was in place at the time and what it achieved compared to what we achieve now with a huge amount more money. We have missed a trick in not comparing and contrasting in all of this.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

I want to ask about governance. If we were to ask the average Joe and Josephine in the street, they would not know much about city region deals at all, but even those who know something get rather confused, to say the least, around governance. Poor governance often leads to poor delivery. What do you think of current governance arrangements, which are a hotchpotch and depend on the area? Do the governance and the scrutiny that comes from it help to drive forward the best possible projects?

I will go to Mr Chikwama first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Kevin Stewart

Previous witnesses have suggested that there could be a connection between land management plans and local place plans in meeting communities’ needs. What do you think about that, gentlemen?