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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 October 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

Recommendation 17 is important, because if we can engage with young people and reach out to them, they will engage with the Parliament much more easily in later life. The Parliament is only just over 20 years old. For many people in Scotland, this Parliament was not here when they were younger or even middle-aged, so it is unlikely that they would have engaged with it at any time in their lives. That is a key point.

On the point about mentorships, internships and competitions, I run a Christmas card competition for school kids, but I could not offer them a prize in the Parliament—a day out in the Parliament and a meal, for example. As you know, that is not allowed. That should be looked at. I have six or seven primary schools involved in my Christmas card competition, which is great.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

When I heard that 19 individuals with such different backgrounds were going to meet, I thought that it could be a recipe for disaster. However, I am really impressed with the 17 recommendations and that the group were 100 per cent in agreement on them, so I say well done to every one of the people who took part.

I have a question about engagement and individuals with lived experience. I have been in the Parliament 11 years and some of us have been here a lot longer—I am not looking at the convener. We see the same witnesses all the time. It is the same groups of self-interest. How does the Parliament reach out to get people with lived experience? How do we make the effort to go out into the communities and find people rather than getting the same groups give evidence to the committee all the time?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

Everything is focused in the central belt, which is where I live. For rural communities and hard-to-engage areas, especially the areas of deprivation that many of us have in our constituencies, the bus would be a great way for the public to engage with Parliament. How many people in rural communities ever see what the Parliament does or engage with it? In my constituency, I have some of the areas of highest deprivation in Scotland, and it is very difficult to communicate with people in those areas. Something like a bus going into their areas or to their community hubs would promote what the Parliament does and how people can engage with it. It is a really good idea.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

I think that, if a bus is to go out, it has to promote how people can engage with the Parliament and how the Parliament can help them to engage. Once we add politicians, another dimension would come in, which would send the whole process skew-whiff. We all know what would happen. We would take our own self-interest to heart—

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

We all know it. [Laughter.] Let us be open and honest, no matter what. If a bus is to go out there, I really think that we need to keep politicians well clear of it.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Public Participation Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 December 2022

David Torrance

I would not believe that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

David Torrance

Considering that the UK Climate Change Committee recommends a reduction of meat consumption rather than a ban on production; that the Scottish Government’s climate change plan update sets out a plan for a 24 per cent reduction in overall emissions from the agriculture category by 2032; that banning meat production may have negative environmental and economic consequences; and that the Scottish Government has stated that it continues to actively promote the consumption of fresh, local and seasonal produce, I suggest that the committee consider closing the petition under rule 15.7 of the standing orders.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

David Torrance

In light of the Scottish Government’s response and there being no plans to reintroduce the right-to-buy scheme for council tenants, I think that there is nothing that the committee can do but close the petition under rule 15.7 of the standing orders.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

David Torrance

The committee could consider writing to Police Scotland, seeking information on the number of threatening and abusive behaviour offences that have been recorded in each year over the past decade and whether the data can be broken down by occupation and workplace. The committee could also write to the Scottish Taxi Federation and Unite Scotland to seek their views on the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

David Torrance

Okay. If that is the case, would the committee like to ask the petitioner and the SPSO to give evidence to members?

I also have another, rather lengthy, ask. Could we write to the SPSO on the issues raised in the petition, including its approach to the handling and consideration of evidence and the rationale for not reviewing its decisions when complaints are upheld? Could we also write to the Scottish Government to clarify its view on the need for, or the desirability of, a review of the SPSO after 20 years of operation, and ask whether it considers that its processes and safeguards in relation to the SPSO are sufficient and effective? Finally, could we ask the Government whether it considers that the legislation governing the SPSO is fit for purpose, whether it would benefit from a review and what revisions might be required?