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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Thank you. That is a fair point. I do not know whether Rachel Minto wants to say anything about resources.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Thank you.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

No—that is fine. Thank you.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Good morning. We are all keen to see effective intergovernmental activity and effective scrutiny of that activity. We have discussed a range of different things that could be done to improve that, most of which will involve some cost in terms of time, expertise or resources. What additional resources—cost as well as time—would any changes that can be made involve for the Government and the Parliament? To what extent is it worth spending that resource? I am sure that lots of measures could be taken. Could resources be found within existing budgets, or does extra money need to be spent on it?

I will start with Mireia Grau Creus. Given the formalised structure in Spain, can we also assume that more resources are spent on IGR there?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 13 November 2025

Neil Bibby

On that very point, a clear outcome of any referendum that establishes the settled will of the people of Scotland is what is desired, regardless of whether there is a requirement for a supermajority.

This also takes us back to the point that Professor Tomkins made earlier. In the 2014 referendum, it was not just the Scottish Government that was arguing at the time that there was a democratic mandate for a referendum through the Scottish Parliament elections; there was a sense that not just the Scottish Government and the UK Government, but both sides of the debate in Scotland—yes and no—had decided that it was time for those questions to be put. If you want that sort of clear and concise outcome in any future referendum, there will have to be consent, not just at a UK Government versus Scottish Government level, but within Scotland and on both sides of the debate—or as close to both sides as possible, because you are never going to get unanimity on this matter—that such a referendum should take place.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Neil Bibby

You mentioned HES bringing in an independent HR team. We have talked about the need for a cultural review of the organisation and have heard about individual processes that need to be followed before that takes place. For clarity, would a cultural review of the organisation be an independent review?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Neil Bibby

You mention learning lessons about how this has come to pass. Do you think that it is just a HES problem? Are there similar issues in other parts of the culture sector or the public sector? Maybe not to the same extent, but—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Neil Bibby

I was asking because we have had a lot of discussion today about problems at the top, but the staff on the ground and throughout the organisation are obviously working hard in difficult circumstances. A meeting may be something to consider.

We have talked a lot about the culture in the organisation. I want to ask about financial planning and financial management. You said that the organisation is “commercially successful”. I have raised concerns previously with HES about financial planning in relation to financial strategies and pay awards, and whether the organisation was budgeting sufficiently for pay awards that were in line with public sector pay policy. Concerns have also been raised previously about changes to pay grades. To what extent are you reassured about HES when it comes to financial planning and financial management? It has, I think, a £73 million budget from Scottish Government.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Good morning. Just on that last point, it has been reported that a group of staff is now considering legal action against HES and the Scottish Government for failures under the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 and the Equality Act 2010. How concerned are you that the Scottish Government could be facing legal action?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Thank you. I have two final questions. There have been a lot of discussions about what meetings you have held, cabinet secretary, and with whom. Have you met, or are you planning to meet, the HES trade union representatives?