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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Those people have practical, tangible experience of your organisation, and they are telling me the opposite of what you have said.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay.

Mr Greer made a point earlier about the Audit Scotland report—which, again, was very scathing. Do you think that that is not relevant any more?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Mr Yeates, the Withers report was pretty scathing about the SDS. I will give you a few snatches of the commentary. It refers to “competing narratives”, “duplication”, “lack of clarity”,

“lack of leadership and effective governance”,

and “harmful, false division”. A particularly critical bit is the comment that the SDS

“doesn’t always appear that it makes decisions or demonstrates behaviours which are focused first on public service delivery or the needs of learners. This dynamic is acting as a blocker for partnership working, joined-up thinking and delivery across the public sector.”

What is your response?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Did the minister ask the review group to consider the amendments? Did he not think that that would be an appropriate thing to do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Has the minister not asked that question already?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Willie Rennie

What did it say?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Willie Rennie

I understand all the arguments that the cabinet secretary is making, but the education inspectorate is in a different position from the inspectorates of the police and the prisons, because we have had what some would call a crisis in recent years. Although we are separating the SQA from Education Scotland, we need to go further. Does the minister think that there is any avenue that she has examined that we could pursue to give greater independence? If she does not agree with any of the amendments, is there anything that she might consider in order to bolster that? I think that she agrees with me—because she was nodding away when I was contributing earlier—that we need to build up the confidence of the central bodies. Is there nothing that she has looked at that we could pursue to give greater independence in order to build that confidence?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Willie Rennie

Just to seek clarity, is it the Government’s position that we should name qualifications based on the SCQF?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Willie Rennie

That is a very fair point that I should have recognised before. I will take that into consideration.

On the scrutiny of the intervals for inspection, amendment 156 sets out that the minister must also seek the relevant committee’s view before issuing any directions.

My amendments are relatively minor, certainly in comparison with Sue Webber’s amendments. I still think that ministers should have a role, but I think that we should pull back and give the chief inspector greater independence in order to give greater confidence to the central bodies in education. Other members have lodged other amendments that serve the same purpose, which is to nudge the role towards greater independence, but without it giving it the lone wolf status that George Adam so clearly craves.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Willie Rennie

Some people would say—and I would agree—that the inspectorate did not identify the international challenge that Scotland was facing with its performance in education. It did not report on that.

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