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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Why did Withers and Audit Scotland criticise it so much?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay. Thanks.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

The reports that I highlighted are from authoritative individuals and organisations. Where is that criticism coming from? Who is it that they are criticising?

10:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I turn to John Lewis. As we have discussed, there is a lot going on in the higher and further education world, and the SFC has to deal with many huge challenges. There has been some criticism—as we have also discussed—about the SFC’s inability to spot those challenges in advance and try to address them adequately. Do you think that the SFC is up to the proposed changes at this time?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I appreciate that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Thank you—that is helpful. Does anybody else want to chip in?

I will bring in Sarah Collins first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Thank you for relaying that example; I have come across others. Too often, local authorities rely on the claim that tenants are not circulating sufficient air within the property. Do we need to provide more evidence about the exact source of mould? The dismissal is leaving tenants in properties that are just uninhabitable.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

We do not have a committee convener. We decided not to sit on as many committees. We took a different approach from the Greens and decided to focus on areas that we regard as a priority. That means that we are missing out on certain opportunities.

We have got a deputy convener, who happened to be a member of that committee. However, that is probably not as much of a priority as choosing the convener.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Yes.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I think that Ross Greer and I are the only two original members of this session’s education committee left. The membership has rotated a lot—far too much. I know that that is up to the parties, but I think that it means that the committee loses knowledge, and the team that is created also goes. I therefore appeal to the whips not to rotate members so frequently.

I am not casting any aspersions on the current Scottish National Party members of the committee, but when we scrutinised the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill, the three SNP members were prepared to step out, not vote with the whip and test the Government minister in a way that I thought showed a committee working at its best. They were not being rebellious; they were just doing the right thing, and that does not always happen. We sometimes see members with the whip in front of them, and they vote in exactly the same way every single time and do not question anything. I have seen both extremes.

My point is that a lot of this is down to individuals. The structure has an impact and it incentivises different behaviours, but, unless you have a culture that is collaborative and unless members of the governing party are prepared to test and challenge, you will get a bit of a stultifying experience whereby nothing really moves forward. When the members challenge, ministers are forced to engage more effectively, and I think that they do a better job as a result. I think that we ended up with a better Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill as a result of those members behaving differently.

We need some structural reform, but my appeal is for members of the governing party to see the benefit of straying just a little bit from the whip into challenge, rather than just adhering to what they are told to do. That is my advice.