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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

I will ask a few questions on yesterday’s evidence, for clarification. You clearly have not been able to watch that, but there were a number of questions surrounding your expenses. Did you approve your own expenses?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

So, at no point did you sign off any of your personal expenses.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

Absolutely.

Professor Gillies was trying to seek information during the time that she spent with you, but you have no diaries of any of those conversations. If the Scottish Funding Council had been made aware, that could have acted as the canary-in-the-mine moment, rather than ending up where we are. It feels as though there was probably some cover-up internally within the university to prevent external organisations that wanted that information from being made aware of it. Is that a fair comment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

I just wanted to ask you about that. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

Was breach of covenants raised at any point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

Of 2024?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

In that whole period, from July 2023 to then, you were not involved and there was never a mention of anything.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

That is pretty amazing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

At what point were you aware of needing to provide that information? Was it only at the very end, with the letter that I have here from your chief operating officer, which says:

“The Principal has asked that I drop you a line”?

Was that the point at which you were aware of all those duties?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Miles Briggs

From reading Professor Gillies’s report, I note that she and the investigation team found it really difficult to get the paper trail. The report states:

“The Principal either was made aware or should have been made aware of the potential breach and a judgement made of whether to report this to the SFC.”

It feels as though a lot of that information was not being written down and could not be accessed. You said that you prefer to have conversations. Is it fair to say that conversations were being had with other professionals whom you expected to take forward the work? Have you ever asked the chief operating officer or anyone else in the institution to limit the information that was being sent to the Scottish Funding Council?