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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Miles Briggs

I am talking about membership of the council, specifically in relation to the role of SAAB.

We have heard from a number of witnesses, who want to know what that will look like and have asked about the breath of the landscape that will be needed, including for apprenticeships, research, colleges and universities. To what extent does the bill provide for that, and what further changes have you considered, given the evidence that we have taken on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Miles Briggs

I picked up on a couple of things during the committee’s evidence sessions that are not currently in the bill. One specific thing concerns alignment with skills shortages. Has the Government looked at that? Another concerns target setting, because it has been raised with the committee that the bill does not include any minimum-level guarantees relating to, for example, rights for apprentices and for employers. There is potentially still quite a lot to be considered for stage 2 amendments—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Miles Briggs

Has the Government been listening? Has it picked up on some of that already?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Miles Briggs

We have had a couple of conversations about private sector investment in the college sector. It is interesting to consider the various approaches that have been taken by colleges—Ayrshire College, in particular—to bring in private investment. In relation to your previous point, that investment often involves equipment. Air-source heat pump fitting in Edinburgh has direct links to the manufacturers, and people leave college with the ability to fit a piece of equipment that they have worked on. There is very little in the bill with regard to opportunities to align more private sector investment to address skill shortages or to fund what will be needed by our college sector. Could you comment on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

Good morning to the panel—I thank you for joining us.

I will carry on with the questioning on the governance of the Scottish Funding Council. You have touched on some of this. What assessment have you made of the bill’s proposal to change the membership of the SFC board in relation specifically to terms of reappointment; the skills and experience of members; and the introduction of co-opting powers? Do any of the witnesses have any views on that? I know that that is putting the cart before the horse with regard to what might be established, but I am happy to take any views.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

Does anyone else want to add anything? I know that Mary Senior touched on this area earlier.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

I note that the bill does not go into any detail about skills shortages. Paul Campbell has already touched on the skills strategy, but why do you think that there not been a focus on that issue? Are we missing an opportunity to look at, say, the renewables sector, at the possibility of new partnerships or private sector money coming into that space, and at what we need to do to get the workforce that will allow us to deliver on all these opportunities? Those things are not in the bill, but how can we link those aspects? Is the problem that apprenticeships are not available in that sector, or does the problem lie with the limited numbers that are coming through from the college sector?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

That was a really good point. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

Good morning. You have already answered the questions that I was going to ask about governance, but what do you think could have been included in the bill in respect of, say, targets? What is missing in that regard?

Moreover, why have we not been meeting any targets? I know that we have not set a target in this respect, but it is the case that only 25,000 apprenticeships have been created to meet a demand amounting to 40,000. If that is what is at the heart of this and what we all want to see, I think that we have strayed off course with this bill when it comes to delivering that. If you were designing this legislation or if you wanted to solve the problem of delivering these apprenticeships, what would you have included?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Miles Briggs

It was about how we could make a link with skills shortages in the bill. I know that it is slightly more difficult for SMEs in the renewables sector to be part of the funding stream, but my question was about aligning those shortages with what the bill is trying to achieve.