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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

No. We will come to your amendments in a moment. There are other members before you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Does anyone else have any comments?

My only comment is that there are 27 areas listed on the instrument where parking would be limited. I come from the Highlands, and I struggle to understand where they all are. I think that it would have been much easier if a map had been produced with the SSI so that we did not have to try to work out where each of the 27 areas is. I would ask that, in future, the clerks make sure that a small map is produced to ensure that we can understand where the areas are, especially when there are 27 of them.

The committee has agreed that it has no comments on whether the order should go into force. Do we agree to write to Highland Council regarding enforcement?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Mercedes Villalba to speak to amendment 43 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Douglas Lumsden to speak to his amendment 343. You do not have to repeat everything that you said when you spoke on behalf of Rachael Hamilton, Mr Lumsden, however tempting that might be.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Mr Lumsden, I let you get that word in twice, but I will not let you get it in again. You can refer to the farm tax in relation to this bill. I am very proud of the fact that committees of this Parliament are apolitical. You can express your views about the tax, but not in that way.

I call Mark Ruskell to speak to amendment 49A and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

We are at a difficult point in the stage 2 proceedings, because we are about to go into another group, which will require debate and a series of votes. That would take us well beyond the time that I have allowed for our meeting this morning, so I propose that we hold it there. We have not got as far as we hoped, and we will have to work out what we are going to do as regards continuing our stage 2 consideration of the bill. We have that to look forward to. Cabinet secretary, we will be in contact with you once we have discussed our work programme.

I close the public part of the meeting.

12:17 Meeting continued in private until 12:53.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

Although Mark Ruskell moved Ariane Burgess’s amendment 310, Ariane has now finished with her other committee business and is here. We have agreed that Mark Ruskell will sum up the debate and press or seek to withdraw amendment 310, but please do not take it as a slight that I am ignoring you, Ariane—I know that you are here.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Does any other member wish to speak?

It is a bit unfair to ask this of you, Mercedes, because although you spoke to it, it is Rhoda Grant’s amendment. My concern is that amendment 341 seeks to move crofting outwith the crofting counties, which has huge implications. If Rhoda Grant were here, I would ask her what the implications of that would be for the costing and running of crofting in Scotland and whether that has been taken into account. I suspect that it has not, because that change would increase the costs of the croft house grant scheme and the cost of the Crofting Commission, which causes me huge concern. Perhaps the cabinet secretary, who will be speaking next, can allude to those problems, unless you particularly want to, Mercedes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary—