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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Sorry, Mercedes, but can I just come in here? It is always very difficult at stage 2 to make sure that there is an open debate, but it does not need to be a conversation across the table. I am gently pointing you to ask a question, which might be followed up by another question, through me, and then you can address the issues when you get to speak. Otherwise, I fear that we could be here until Christmas, which might be a good thing, but maybe not.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The next item of business is stage 2 of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill, which is consideration of amendments. I welcome the non-committee members who are here today. This is our first stage 2 meeting on the bill. At the moment, the deadline for lodging amendments is 27 June, but more than 516 amendments have already been lodged, which will require some consideration.

Before we go into the detail of the amendments, I remind members, as I always do at the start of stage 2 considerations in this committee, that I have an interest in a farming partnership in Moray, as set out clearly in my entry in the register of members’ interests. Specifically, I declare an interest as the owner of approximately 500 acres—for those of you who want to know the conversion, it is 202 hectares—of farmland, of which 50 acres, or just over 20 hectares, is woodland.

I also declare that I am a tenant of approximately 500 acres, or approximately 202 hectares, in Moray under a non-agricultural tenancy, and that I have another farming tenancy under the Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Act 1991. I also take on grass lets on an annual basis, should I need to.

It is hard to predict how much progress the committee will make today, but I can say with some confidence that I do not expect us to get past section 6 today. I am looking to stop the stage 2 consideration at around 12.30, so that we have time to consider our work programme.

As this is our first stage 2 meeting on the bill, I will recap the process. Committee members should have before them the bill, the marshalled list and the groupings. For those of you who are watching online, those documents are available on the Scottish Parliament’s bill web page.

I will call each amendment in the order that it appears on the marshalled list. The member who lodged the amendment should either move it or say “not moved” when it is called. If that member does not move the amendment, any other member present may do so. The groupings document sets out the amendments in the order in which they will be debated. There will be one debate on each group of amendments. The member who lodged the first amendment in the group will be called to speak to and move the amendment and to speak to any other amendments in the group. I will then call other members who have amendments in the group to speak, but not to move, their amendments and to speak to the other amendments in the group, if they wish.

I will then call any other members who wish to speak in the debate. If you wish to speak, indicate that to me or to the clerk to make sure that I bring you in. I will then call the cabinet secretary to speak, if she has not already spoken in the debate. Finally, I will call the member who moved the first amendment in the group to wind up and to press or withdraw the amendment. If a member wishes to withdraw an amendment after it has been moved and debated, I will ask whether any member present objects. If there is an objection, I will put the question on the amendment. Later amendments in the group are not debated again when they are reached in the marshalled list. If they are moved, I will put the question on them straight away.

Only committee members may vote in a division, and, because this is a hybrid meeting, voting will be done by roll call. We hope that we will get a result there and then, if the figures tally. If they do not tally, we will do the roll call again until they do—but they will.

That is how it works. There is a huge briefing pack, which is just for today—there is a lot more to come.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

As we are just about to go into the next phase of quite a long debate, I propose that we have a nine-minute break, and I ask people to be back here at 10.50. That is my military background coming out.

10:41 Meeting suspended.  

10:51 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Mercedes Villalba to speak to amendment 174 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Amendment 12, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 13, 15, 108, 417, 132, 162, 161, 165, 165A, 458, 170, 175, 217, 219 and 220. I call the cabinet secretary to move amendment 12 and speak to the other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Bob Doris to speak to amendment 22 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Tim. As no other member wishes to speak to the group and I am not going to do so, I invite the cabinet secretary to wind up.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Tim Eagle to speak to amendment 427 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Ariane Burgess to speak to amendment 3 and other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Douglas Lumsden to speak to Rachael Hamilton’s amendment 400 and other amendments in the group.