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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

It sounds as though it might take 100 years to get to the level that we need, which is 100 per cent, although I might have got that wrong.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Can I make a suggestion? I am sure that this is right, but broadcasting colleagues will correct me if I am wrong. Broadcasting will activate the witnesses’ microphones. If you try to activate them, you will deactivate what broadcasting colleagues are trying to achieve. I am sure that you were not doing that, Graham, but I say that just in case you were. In that way, we are giving broadcasting colleagues a chance to make sure that they have got it right.

You are live.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I do not like interrupting people, but Celeste Hicks’s time is quite short. I wonder whether we could move to questions from Mark Ruskell.

Mark, could you be mindful that Celeste is leaving at 10.25? I would like to put a question to her before she goes, so you cannot use up all the time between now and then with your questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Due to the shortness of time, I will ask a simple question. The message that I am getting is that we need to go quicker down this route, as aeroplane travel is one of the most difficult things to crack when it comes to reducing emissions. If we use more SAF, how much will that put on the price of an aeroplane ticket? Will it mean that people can no longer afford to fly and that therefore we will achieve the reductions in a different way? Is there a correlation between increasing use of SAF and ticket price? If SAF use goes up to 10 per cent, will aeroplane tickets go up by 10, 20 or 30 per cent?

Who would like to have a go at that? Celeste, you are leaving, but you are not going to get away without answering that, so you can start.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Mercedes, before I come to you, I will make an observation. I was looking at electricity prices the other day. If the average electricity bill is £880, for example, roughly £145 of it is used to pay green levies, which seems a huge amount. On that basis, in this context, we know that the price will be passed on to the end consumer, so certain people will be priced out of their trips. As Celeste rightly said, those people or businesses who can afford it will fly and everyone else will have to suffer. Have I got that wrong, Mercedes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am glad to report that you are. We can hear you loud and clear.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Turning to the LCM before this Parliament, which relates to the bill that is before the UK Parliament, does the bill go far enough, in your opinion? Does it drive this forward at the pace that we need? Again, I will let you each answer briefly, starting with Graham Hutchings.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

That is alright. I will not embarrass everyone, then. Does anyone have a view on whether the bill goes far enough? Mark is volunteering.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I want to push back a little bit on that. Are you suggesting that long-haul flights will get away with small increases and short-haul flights will be the ones that bear the brunt of the cost increase, or have I got that wrong?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I wonder where the dividing line will be, and whether it will be cheaper to go to Australia than to Spain. That is an interesting concept.

Celeste, before you disappear, do you want to add to that? I am happy to go to other witnesses, but I realise that you are pushed for time. I appreciate you staying longer.