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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

The final question comes from Monica—over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

People out there are facing a cost of living crisis, the prices of food and suchlike are rising exponentially and we are asking people to make fundamental changes to their lives, such as moving from using fossil fuels and oil boilers to air-source heat pumps and so on. There is a cost to all that, in the same way as there is if we follow the recommendation that we eat less meat, because that means that we can reduce the size of the herd, which means that the price of meat increases. To make people buy into that, which is what you and the Governments are encouraging people to do, surely they will have to know what they have to invest financially. Just saying that it is better for the world is too abstract if they do not know how many pounds they are going to have to take out of their pockets to pay for it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

What does the percentage figure for GDP between two periods actually mean for a person in a house in Scotland? How much will it cost them to achieve the targets that you suggest that the Government should achieve?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Basically, the approach is all about horse trading among the various areas where carbon is emitted, to come up with an overall carbon budget. Does it give anyone in Scotland an idea of what the costs will be to the average household or the average individual, or does it just set out a figure for carbon with no costs set out for individuals and what they are going to have to buy into?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

So, you are confident that your interaction with the Scottish Government has not caused any delay in the production of the draft carbon budgets.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

James, I sort of heard that answer. I am struggling with your sound today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sure that that gives absolute confidence to people in rural areas who rely on private transport to get them to places because there is no public transport. I must also say that people in rural areas often have to travel to cities such as Edinburgh and Glasgow for treatment, because there is no treatment in rural areas. They will be penalised for doing that if there are congestion charges. I think that a lot of work needs to be done in order to explain what the effects of the proposals would mean for individual households.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am still slightly concerned. I am not sure that I will get the exact date right, but it was something like 22 May when you gave your advice—or perhaps that was when we were expecting the budgets. There was then a delay of about three weeks in getting the Scottish Government’s response to your advice and the draft budgets. That suggests that there had not been much liaison before you produced your advice to the Scottish Government, because it was thrown into disarray by it. Is that an unfair characterisation of what happened?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Moving on slightly, I think, James, that you will understand the process that has been gone through: emergency legislation was passed last year to change the original legislation and bring in carbon budgets. We were expecting carbon budgets in May and, based on your advice, there was a delay. There was some talk within the Scottish Government and, having received your advice, it decided to reject some of it.

I would say that, for the committee, the whole process has been fairly torturously slow, and as convener, I am absolutely concerned that we will be dealing with the final part of the climate change plan in the rump of the parliamentary session, probably in the last month and the last weeks before the Parliament goes into recess in the run-up to the election. I am concerned about that, and I have to wonder whether a climate change plan will be approved by the Parliament and put in place.

Can you explain to me what interactions you have had with the Scottish Government and whether those interactions have justifiably led to the delays that the committee has faced in considering the carbon budget and, eventually, the climate change plan, when we get it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

The subject is interesting. At the moment, I do not think that I understand enough about carbon budgets and the proposals that the Scottish Government has made to give me confidence about what I am being asked to invest in, which is what we are asking every single person in Scotland to invest in to reach net zero, or about what the basic costs are to those individuals.

I heard what you said about reducing the price of electricity; well, we have not seen a reduction in its price, which seems to be going up continually. As far as cars are concerned, I look forward to having a car that can get me home without my needing to stop to charge it, which delays me in the process of getting there.

To turn to some of the generalities, there is a complex mix of what is devolved and what is not devolved with climate policy responsibilities, is there not? Which devolved responsibilities are the really important ones that the Scottish Government should focus on first in the climate change plan? What does the Scottish Government have responsibility for now and what should be its focus of attention? I do not know who wants to answer that.