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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

The final question comes from Monica—over to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

James, I sort of heard that answer. I am struggling with your sound today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I thank both witnesses for their very interesting evidence today, and I would encourage them to follow up on the issues on which they said that they would get back to the committee. They should know that the clerks will be in contact to remind them what those issues are, so that information can be circulated to members.

We will now move into private session.

12:01 Meeting continued in private until 12:32.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

That is interesting. The committee visited a place down in the Borders, where the cost of bringing houses up to the required state was much higher than that. In some cases—with old farmhouses, for example—up to £0.25 million was being budgeted for to make them fit for the new technology and to meet the energy performance certificate requirements. Obviously, a lot has changed since I was a surveyor, but I think that I still have my finger on the pulse.

The next questions will come from Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I could get too involved in this, so I will move to Kevin Stewart for the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

No, because I am going to come back to Douglas Lumsden, because I cut him off without even introducing him.

Back to you, Douglas. I apologise again; off you go.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am intrigued about how that will be achieved, because you cannot increase road tax or fuel prices in rural areas without penalising them for it, and you cannot provide them with public transport because there is not the capacity for it, nor is there a wish to have public transport at the moment. How will the Government deliver that wonderful 6 per cent figure for people who live in rural communities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

This is where I get confused by the headline figures: as you rightly say, 6 per cent might mean something completely different to somebody who lives in Edinburgh who does not need to take public transport compared with someone who lives in the Highlands. Somebody in Edinburgh may have one car whereas, in the Highlands, most families may have to rely on two cars because they have to get around the place. We are talking about a huge reduction in car use and there is no sight line in the future to having more bus or train transport. In fact, bus services and train transport are reducing. What will the effect be on people who live in rural areas? How many miles or kilometres do you think that they will have to shift: 100km a year? Would it be reasonable for the burden to fall on everyone in Edinburgh and Glasgow, as they have access to public transport?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Edward Mountain

We are talking about thousands, however, are we not?