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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 342 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, I wonder whether you would be so kind as to clarify what you believe the conflict is. Is it because they own land and so might not look at situations with clarity, or is it because they might know other people who own land? I cannot see the connection.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I am struggling with that as well, because larger businesses that have holdings that could justify a fine of £40,000 would not be worried about such a fine per se; they might be more worried about the reputational damage that it would cause them, should it become clear that they have not drawn up a land management plan.

Having listened to this morning’s arguments, I intend to try to work with the cabinet secretary and Mr Doris to see whether a more reasonable figure or a guidance figure could be agreed to get to that £40,000 over a structured period of time. I do not anticipate that many people will be in that situation. I really hope that, once the legislation is in place, people will work towards land management plans if they are agreed, which would preclude the need for land reform every 10 years.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 135 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that—no. We are going on to another group. I was jumping ahead of myself.

The next group is on land management plans. Amendment 24, in the name of Tim Eagle, is grouped with amendments 318, 25 to 28, 393, 394, 29, 2, 319 to 322, 30, 323 to 329, 395, 31, 32, 330 to 334 and 336. I remind members of the pre-emptions that are set out in the groupings paper. I call Tim Eagle to move amendment 24 and speak to all amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Do you want to speak to any of the other amendments in the group?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call amendment 136—[Interruption.]

I am sorry—did I miss something?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)