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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Deputy convener, I am not sure whether I saw your hand up. Do you want to come in, or did I misread the signal that you were giving? You are live, so we should be able to hear you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
I am sorry—that was very perfunctory. I did not mean it to sound like that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Welcome back. We will go straight to questions from the deputy convener, whose team has been clearly emblazoned over the monitors as he drank from his cups of coffee.
Michael, over to you. Your question cannot be about football.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Mr Stewart, I like that you smiled at that.
I am now going to move to the substantive question. Is the committee content that the provision set out in the notification be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument?
Members: No.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
There will be a division. Because Michael Matheson is online, we will have to do a roll-call vote. I will go around the table and ask each member to vote.
For
Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)
Abstentions
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Agenda item 2 is an evidence session on the draft climate change plan, which was laid on 6 November. The Parliament has 120 days in which to scrutinise the draft, and the Scottish Government has indicated that it intends to lay a final plan before the dissolution of Parliament prior to the election, in March next year.
Put simply, the plan is a strategy document that sets out how the Government intends to meet carbon-reduction targets across the whole of our society and the economy. Our committee is leading the cross-committee scrutiny of the draft plan, and this is our first evidence session on it. Today, we are considering the report in the round and asking, fundamentally, what makes a good climate change plan and does the draft look like such a plan? I hope that we will find out the answers, at the end of the day.
I welcome our witnesses: Dr Richard Dixon, chair, and Neil Langhorn, head of strategy and analysis, Environmental Standards Scotland; Professor Graeme Roy, chair, Scottish Fiscal Commission; and Clare Wharmby, co-director, Scottish Climate Intelligence Service. Thank you all for attending. I will get the thanks in at the beginning in case, by the end, you are not so thankful to have attended—although I hope that you will be.
I get to ask the first question, which goes to each of you. Richard and Neil, you might have to decide between you which of you will answer on behalf of your organisation. Clare, I will come to you first. What are your overall views on the draft climate change plan, and how does it compare with earlier versions? Is it what you expected?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Yes.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
I should point out that the committee has asked for future legislation to show where the Government is moving towards net zero, and for budget scrutiny to look at where it is achieving the net zero objectives in the plan. The committee has been at the forefront of that.
Kevin wants to come in with questions on a different area.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you, Kevin.
I thank everyone for giving evidence this morning. The formation of the new Parliament will be a direct result of elections and the choices of the people of Scotland. If it becomes a more difficult Parliament, that will be what the people of Scotland have chosen.
I have found this morning’s discussions very interesting. I have set views on plans being about what, where, how, by whom and at what cost. They should also include what-if scenarios. I will be interested to see, over the next few months, how the climate change plan meets those criteria.
The other thing that I should clarify is that our consultation will finish on 5 March 2026, which meets the statutory requirement. There is no legal requirement to lay a climate change plan before the end of this parliamentary session, but the Government has indicated that it intends to do so. There is no statutory requirement for that.
The meeting was slightly longer than I had anticipated, but the draft plan will be a key focus of the committee between now and the end of the parliamentary session, so it is important that we drill down into some of the issues.
I suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow the witnesses to leave before we move on to our next item of business.
11:45 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 November 2025
Edward Mountain
I appreciate that offer, and I think that raising some of the issues with the Scottish Government might make the implementation of this proposed ban, should it be agreed across the United Kingdom, easier for lots of people. After all, it will affect the Scottish Government, too, because it employs stalkers in Forestry and Land Scotland, and they will probably have to change a lot of their rifles and weapons to allow them to carry out their duties as rangers.
Are there any other comments?