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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Before we leave this subject, I have to say that I seem to have been looking at trains for as long as I have been looking at ferries, both in this and in the previous parliamentary session. I seem to remember four ministers coming in and justifying why Abellio should lose the contract on the basis that it did not meet its PPM targets—that was the reason given to the committee. Bill Reeve has given the main reasons for not meeting the target—there were six of them, I think—and the problems that ScotRail is facing are the same ones that Abellio faced. We now have fewer trains running and a lower performance than Abellio was achieving. Why is that good news for Scotland and Scotland’s commuters, cabinet secretary?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that that response has taken me any further. My premise is that, with fewer trains running, we should have greater accuracy on delivering trains within five minutes of their scheduled arrival time. However, we do not seem to have that, and you have said that we will not be in the position in which Abellio was with the PPM until 2027, which seems poor.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Monica. Bob, did you want to ask some questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I do not think that it would prejudice the discussions over the purchase of the port if you were to clarify whether, prior to your time as cabinet secretary, any discussions took place about whether the base should be Troon or Ardrossan.

We also heard that Peel Ports had offered to invest in Ardrossan to the tune of £170 million-ish for the improvements to the quayside to allow a 102m ferry into the harbour, because the berth was only 97m. Is that true?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I would be interested to hear Chris’s point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. The other thing that we heard when we met Peel Ports was that the heads of terms had been agreed for the purchase of Ardrossan and that it was just a question of transferring the money, at which point it would become the Scottish Government’s port. Is that the case, or not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am not disputing that. What I am trying to work out is this. We were very much told that the heads of terms had been agreed. Having done purchases of land in my previous profession, I know that it can be done quite quickly. I am not asking what the price is, but if this were to be agreed today, would you have the money to buy it tomorrow? Could it be transferred that quickly? That is normally the way it works.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I would accept short, medium and long-term plans for capital investments, but you will still have a base price for each of those aspects at the time that you put forward the business case, and that will be based on today’s figure, with a potential inflationary rise over a few years. That is the way that it would be done commercially, so I would be very grateful if you could provide that information.

Douglas Lumsden has some questions, and then I will bring in the deputy convener.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am delighted that these regulations are being brought forward. I remember that it was an issue that we wrestled with many years ago, when I was a member of this committee, and I think that this is the right move.

With regard to how you have sorted out the finance, why did you decide that the split would be that the council salary would still be paid by, presumably, the council and that only the adjusted MSP salary would be be paid by the Parliament? Surely the councils are the ones that are short of money and the one that could bear the cost is the Scottish Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Edward Mountain

My question is more on the mechanics of it, convener. I do not know the answer to this, but, if someone is an MP and then gets elected as an MSP, I presume that they will go straight on to being able to employ staff as an MSP, who might also be the staff they are employing as an MP. Have you considered that? Will guidance on that be issued between the two Parliaments? There could be a period in which the MSP and MP are employing the same staff. You are solving one issue, minister, but have you thought about solving the other? Or does it not happen? I do not know the answer to that, but I am sure that you will have looked at it.