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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Ariane. Does any other member wish to speak?

As no one wishes to speak, I will just say that I was slightly thrown in some respects by the amendments on a model lease. It would have been far more helpful to have a model lease included in the bill as introduced, so that one could see whether or not it was going to work, rather than considering a suggestion that it should come later.

I am also slightly confused by Ariane Burgess’s suggestion of a model lease for hutters—or for hutting, as it were, rather than hutters. I do not understand whether that lease would be completely separate. Would it be a lease under other legislation, rather than the bill? Would it absolve people who take on a hutting lease from anything to do with an agricultural tenancy or an agricultural holding, or any of the leases in other legislation?

I do not have a huge number of civil servants behind me, but the cabinet secretary does, and I come to her now to explain the amendments.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Would you give way on that point?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Mark Ruskell to speak to Ariane Burgess’s amendment 6 and her other amendments, but he will get a chance to speak to the other amendments in the group later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Mercedes Villalba to speak to amendment 140 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 163 disagreed to.

Amendment 164 not moved.

Amendment 165 moved—[Mairi Gougeon].

Amendment 165A not moved.

Amendment 165 agreed to.

Amendment 458 moved—[Tim Eagle].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

You are back on microphone, Mercedes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 156 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 1, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 156 agreed to.

Amendment 157 not moved.

10:15  

Amendment 448 moved—[Tim Eagle].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I call Mark Ruskell to speak to Ariane Burgess’s amendment 468.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

On that point, cabinet secretary, we are talking about the transmission of power, not battery storage, which would fall under different legislation. My understanding is that the 1989 act is about transmission, not storage. Electricity companies are not empowered to store power.