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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Now it is the deputy convener’s turn.

10:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I have a couple of questions to finish off this session.

EU environmental regulation is interesting because it ends up pickling things in aspic and not allowing things to change. We tend to feed into the process, and the approach tends to follow a precautionary principle that says that no damage can be done. Although that might be the right approach, there might also be benefits from the proposed development. I have heard Lloyd Austin’s comments on that, but I am interested in Robbie Calvert’s and David Melhuish’s views. Do you think that the EU’s precautionary approach to the environment gives enough flexibility?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I am not saying that they are holding things up; I am asking whether they are preventing developments that might have benefits across the whole environment rather than just in the area that was designated or that falls within the designation for a species of flora or fauna.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

A lot of chemical applications will be for on-label use but will involve a different permutation of the chemical application. They will have data sheets anyway, and, if companies have applied for use in the European Union, surely they will be submitting that information voluntarily, and the questions asked by the European Union will also apply to the HSE regarding the use of that chemical in the UK. Therefore, it should surely not slow things up that much.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I want to check that I understand this. The application processes in the UK and the EU will run in tandem, so a lot of information that will be asked for will be similar. I cannot see how things will be slowed down for companies.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, Mr Ruskell—I did not quite hear that question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I was hoping that Natalie Don was not about to say no there. We are agreed.

Minister, you can slip away now. I know that you are busy.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:16 Meeting continued in private until 12:37.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2022 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Agenda item 1 is consideration of whether to take agenda items 6, 7 and 8 in private. Item 6 is consideration of evidence that we will hear on the legislative consent memorandum on the Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill; item 7 is consideration of the committee’s work programme; and item 8 is consideration of candidates for the post of adviser on climate change. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill

Meeting date: 4 October 2022

Edward Mountain

We move to questions from Jackie Dunbar next; we will come to the deputy convener later.