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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Douglas, I think that you have some further questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you. Jim Fairlie, you wanted to come back with a follow-up.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
I have a final question. The pricing of all this seems quite opaque to me. You have the costs that you put out, plus the contingency plan, plus what I call the Derek Mackay loan, then you have the extra money that has been given to the yard, and then you have some capital investment subsequent to that. That basically means that we are talking about £175 million to produce each of these ferries—that is roughly where I am at. That does not include any of the stuff that needs to be done in the harbours to make sure that they can take these boats. We know that Ardrossan cannot and there are no LNG tanks, so there is probably quite a lot of extra money in there that is not part of the contracts. If each of these boats, Glen Sannox and 802, has cost £175 million to build, what value will CMAL be putting them on its books at? That is the value that they will have to be insured at and that is their true worth, so what do you think the true worth of each of these boats is? It cannot be £175 million, surely.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
You left that answer hanging. You said that you know about the relationships that you have had in the past 18 months. You had better tell us about them, because we do not know.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Item 2 is a decision on whether to take items 5, 6 and 7 in private. Item 5 is to consider the stakeholders’ views on “Scotland’s Guiding Principles On The Environment: Statutory Guidance” and the recent Scottish Government report on the effectiveness of environmental governance regulations, item 6 is to consider the evidence we will hear under agenda item 3, and item 7 is to consider whether to seek approval for the appointment of an adviser. Are we happy to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
There are a whole heap of questions, as you would expect. I will start off with an easy one.
Looking back, when you first took over the construction, was it clear that there were serious problems with the construction of the vessel at that stage? Were you clear from day 1, when you moved into the yard, that there were problems?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
When I visited the yard in 2018, there were pipes going up the lift shaft, which would clearly not allow the lift to operate. You identified problems within three months. Why were they not picked up before? I do not understand why, after the yard was nationalised, there appears to have been two years in which the problems could have been dealt with. Is that a fair assessment?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Are you saying that all the problems with design that you face now fall back to your predecessor?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
Indeed, which is why I think the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee questioned why they were asking for a ferry to be built with 1,000 seats on it. However, my question to you was whether it is still exactly the same number of cars and lorries.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Edward Mountain
The ferry as built will still meet the dead-weight requirements and the speed requirements in the original contract.