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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 February 2026
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 8 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, convener. I realise the pressure that is on the committee as we come to the end of the parliamentary session. I would like to go back to a couple of comments that were made when the petition last came before the committee on 5 February. At that time, Ash Regan said that she believes that public bodies are “defensive” and Fergus Ewing said that he profoundly believed that the current system is “inherently flawed”. That remains my position, and I think that that is the position of the petitioners.

Since I came to the committee on 5 February, more cases have come to light in the Highlands, some of which are deeply concerning. Pupils are being dragged out of classrooms by their feet and teachers are being suspended but no evidence has been given as to why they have been suspended. As far as their colleagues are concerned, it remains the case that they have done nothing wrong when the parents and the pupils know that they have done something wrong. That is why we need, more than anything else, a whistleblowing officer to look at issues and to address them.

If we are going to get it right for every child—which we must do—we need to ensure that children are heard and that, when evidence is provided on mistreatment, especially in schools, it is made available when the person is suspended. At the moment, too many teachers across Scotland are getting away with things because the authorities are hiding behind GDPR regulations that say that they cannot disclose whether a person has been suspended.

I think that that situation will go on for ever, until we get a whistleblowing officer, which is why I am keen to ensure that the petition continues. As I said, I know that time is an issue for the committee, but I think that your committee is the only one in Parliament that can keep open petitions into the next session. Considering that the children of Scotland are affected, I urge the committee to consider keeping it open, because we have not got things right at the moment. I will leave it at that, because I could get emotional over this, as I think that we are letting our children down.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

There are a few supplementary questions on the back of what we have just discussed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sorry, cabinet secretary, but I am now more confused than I was at the beginning.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I do not remember the exact figure that we were given for the cost of dualling the A9, but it was something like £3.7 billion at 2023 prices, so we will be somewhere north of that. If MIM—I do not like using that term. If the mutual investment model does not work, what happens then? Where will the money come from? Do you have a plan for that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I see that, and I see that the Spey bridge is being resurfaced again, although it is less than a year since that was previously done. That adds to the confusion about road works.

I will link the issue to our previous topic of active travel. For active travel, the missing bit on the A9 is between Aviemore and Carrbridge, which is one of the areas that are to be dualled. If we are underspending on the active travel budget, should we sort that bicycle lane and the pedestrian walkway before the road works start? Otherwise, things will be even worse. Surely that would be a good investment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Michael Matheson has some further questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Sure.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

A number of members have supplementary questions, and I will go to Douglas Lumsden in a minute. Before I do, cabinet secretary, I appreciate your offer of help with regard to an additional LCM, but it would be wrong of me, as convener, not to ask you when we can expect to receive it. You have offered—I am asking.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

I am still confused. We have fewer trains but more passengers, so people are using fewer trains. Therefore, it should be easier to—[Interruption.] Well, if there are fewer trains running and more passengers getting them, it means that more passengers are getting on fewer trains. My question is this: why is that not helping the figures?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, I am very delighted to hear that, but I have a simple question to start off with: are fewer trains running on the network in Scotland now than there were when Abellio was running the line—yes or no?