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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister, and thank you to your officials.

12:23 Meeting continued in private until 12:32.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

There do not seem to be any further questions. You are getting an easy ride, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Agenda item 1 is consideration of whether to take agenda item 7 in private. Under agenda item 7, the committee will consider the evidence that it has heard as part of our inquiry into a modern and sustainable ferry service for Scotland. I remind the committee that, at our previous meeting, the consideration of evidence, which we agreed to take in private, was deferred. We will consider that evidence today. Do members agree to take agenda item 7 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I understand that, but creeping forward is not what the REC Committee recommended. What this committee is charged with doing is trying to find a way to take things forward. The final part of the paragraph that I have just quoted, as I am sure that you know—I know the report fairly well—says that there should be

“scope to streamline and simplify decision-making structures by merging or abolishing certain of them.”

That means that, without putting too fine a point on it, according to the REC Committee, CMAL should no longer exist. Would you challenge that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Yes, Morag—of course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That will be up to committee members, Morag.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Liam Kerr has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I have made a mistake. I should have brought the deputy convener in. I do not want to incur her wrath so I will bring her in now, and then bring in Monica Lennon.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I am just looking around. I have one further question, and if no other members have any questions, I will ask it.

Based on the evidence that you have given this morning, Kevin, I am enthusiastic about the number of ferries that are up for design and delivery. I am less confident in the price, which I think is a year old; I think that it may be significantly more.

If we are to look forward to the sustainable delivery of ferry services in Scotland, we have to look back to the history and the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report, which said that we did not get the contract right. When talking about new design, the report said:

“action should ensure that future contracts achieve the most appropriate balance between cash flow and risk and include more robust safeguards”.

It goes on, but, based on that, it would give me more confidence, looking to the future, if we could understand the tender process.

I accept that you may not be able to give all this information today—we would be happy to receive it in writing—but we would like an explanation of the tender process, how you went through it and selected the yard; the sign-off of the design of the ferries; the overall cost that has been agreed at the outset for each boat; how the staged payments will be made, how many there are and who will check them; and on what dates delivery will be made and the penalties that will be in place for failing to meet those delivery dates. That seems the most important process in getting future ferries to Scotland on time, as the report highlighted, and if we are to have a sustainable ferry service, we need to be confident that it is being achieved. Are you in the position to write to the committee to clarify those points in relation to the contracts?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

You are so generous, and I take that in the spirit in which I am sure that it was meant. However, we have to make sure that we have this right.