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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Have Transport Scotland officials engaged with their United Kingdom counterparts, especially those in Greater Manchester, to learn about the development of bus franchising in major metropolitan areas in England?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Sorry. I wrongfooted you. My mistake.

I was going to ask about the Aarhus convention, but I guess that we have kind of covered that. The one concern that I have about what I have heard today is about making the process more specialised. Once you make it more specialised, you get experts. Once you get experts, you get increased fees. Once you get increased fees, you go into a circle of whether you can afford to get justice as well. I do not know whether that is a problem.

Professor Hendry, I think that you want to tell me that that is wrong—do you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

So the speed would save the fees, perhaps.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. Thank you.

I think that Bob Doris has further questions and reflections on an earlier question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Sarah, before you move on, I think that SEPA had quite a lot of inquiries, as well. It might be worth asking about that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I feel that you left Jamie Whittle out, having gone through the rest of the panel. It is difficult, as convener—Jamie, I am saying this to you—to see whether you want to ask a question, because it goes through the broadcasting system. If you wave at me, I will assume that you want to come in. I do not know whether you are waving at me now, but I give you the opportunity to come in now.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. On the basis of the evidence, that is probably what I should have expected, but it was not a whole-hearted ringing endorsement of the process so far.

The first committee member to ask questions will be Sarah Boyack.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has the final question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Mark, I said that you had the final question, and you have now had three. I have pushed it as far as I can with the timing, so I am afraid that I will have to move on to the next agenda item.

The next item is a debate on motion S6M-11609, which calls on the committee to recommend approval of the draft Bus Services Improvement Partnerships (Objections) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. I remind everyone at the other end of the committee room that only the minister may speak in the debate.

Minister, do you want to speak to and move the motion?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I should say to the minister that I had been checking with the clerks whether Mr Lumsden needed to make a declaration when you pulled me up for talking while you were speaking. I can do two things at once, minister, as you will have noticed.

Before you respond to the comments, minister, I want to make one comment. I understand your comments about funding, but I would suggest that any significant changes to the way in which buses are operated and run will require significant funding.

On that note, minister, I hand back to you to sum up.