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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Truthfully, Mr Kerr, I have allowed you to push that quite a long way. I have asked the minister to write to the committee, because I think that the subject is of interest to us, as will be understanding who will shoulder the obligations. It will be a short-term loan to allow something to happen, but it will have long-term consequences and costs relating to managing the environment beyond that. The committee would like to know more about that. So, the more you can share with us, minister, the more grateful we will be.

I will bring in Collette Stevenson, who lost her question in the cut and thrust of that exchange.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Before I bring in Mark Ruskell, I will ask one more question on that issue. My concern is that carbon credits come with a sting in the tail, because we do not know what their ultimate cost will be. If firms are buying up or giving bridging loans, that might be for carbon credits, which is an interesting concept. Therefore, I find it odd that the Government has not discussed their use and discounted it or agreed that they should be used.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I absolutely understand that, but that help comes at a cost. I am trying to identify whether the help is attached to carbon credits.

I will bring in Mark Ruskell, and then I might follow that up a little more.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Can I finish on my carbon credits question, then come back to you on marine protected areas?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our next item is an evidence session on Scotland’s deposit return scheme. I refer members to the papers for this item.

At the committee’s last meeting on 7 March, we agreed to take evidence from the Scottish Government on the DRS, and to hear from Circularity Scotland, the scheme administrator, at a meeting in the near future. The purpose of these sessions is to ascertain key information about the scheme’s readiness for launch on 16 August this year.

I am pleased to welcome back Lorna Slater, Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity. I also welcome Kevin Quinlan, director, environment and forestry, Scottish Government; and Euan Page, head of UK frameworks, Scottish Government.

Minister, before we begin, I believe that you would like to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

That is a very detailed statement. Rather than go back to the minister, I will see whether Collette Stevenson wants to come in with a supplementary based on what she has just heard.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Minister, with the greatest respect, we have been trying to keep the discussion apolitical and I do not think that this is the right place to call someone out. We have been trying to understand the mechanics of the operation. I am happy to let you conclude, but I would urge you to take the personalities out of it and avoid criticising people, as the committee has agreed to do.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

We are running short of time, on our agenda and yours, minister. However, I have a quick question. I am interested in your comment about small producers from outwith Scotland that sell some, but not many, goods in Scotland. You gave the example of wine coming in and said that, if one of the big multiples wants to get products from a small producer, Circularity Scotland will give it labels to stick on. I do not understand the process of sticking on the labels. Will that be done by the retailer just before the product goes out the door, or will it be at the point when the products are imported into Scotland? How will that work? Surely, it will add cost and reduce choice.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

The next agenda item is consideration of a Scottish statutory instrument. The instrument is laid under the negative procedure, which means that the provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them. At this stage, no motion to annul has been lodged.

As members have no comments, are we agreed that we do not want to make any further recommendations in relation to the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I was suggesting a zonal approach. I was not talking about land ownership. A zonal approach is not limited by who owns the land; it is about directing the support and grants to encourage people to carry out activities on that land. That is something that the Scottish Government can do, is it not?