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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Do not touch a button. The microphone will come on for you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2023. Today we have received apologies from Monica Lennon and Ash Regan. I welcome Collette Stevenson. Mercedes Villalba will also attend later, as a substitute. When she joins us I will have to pause to ask her whether she wants to declare interests before she asks any questions. Technically, that is the first item on the agenda, but it will come at the correct moment.

Therefore, we will move to agenda item 2, which is to make a decision on whether to take items 6, 7 and 8 in private. Items 6 and 7 are consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the outcome of the 15th United Nations biodiversity conference of the parties—COP15—and Scotland’s deposit return scheme. Item 8 is consideration of a draft report on the United Kingdom Energy Bill. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Item 3 is an evidence session that forms part of our scrutiny of the outcomes of the 15th UN biodiversity conference of the parties, otherwise known as COP15. Members have received papers on the subject.

Last week, the committee heard from a panel of experts in biodiversity policy. This week we will hear from the Scottish Government on its views on the outcomes of COP15 and about how the targets that were agreed at the summit will be embedded in the new Scottish biodiversity strategy.

I welcome Lorna Slater, the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity. Thank you for attending today. I also welcome Matthew Bird, who is biodiversity team leader, and Lisa McCann, who is head of biodiversity, from the Scottish Government. I believe that you wish to make a brief opening statement, minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, minister.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I will now do a pivot—which politicians are sometimes quite capable of doing. I will pause that agenda item to return to agenda item 1. Mercedes Villalba, this is the first time that you have attended the committee, so I ask whether there are any declarations that you wish to make before you ask questions at the committee.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I will now pivot back again to the subject at hand. Thank you again, minister, for your opening statement. The first questions are from Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Minister, before you comment on that, I want to say that, last week, I made a voluntary declaration of my interests, in that I own and manage land through my farming partnership. As Jackie Dunbar has mentioned salmon, which is a subject that is close to my heart, it is right that I refer members to my interest in a wild salmon fishery on the River Spey, which I own jointly with my brother. I say that just so that there is no dubiety, and note that I am not asking the question. Minister, I am sorry to interrupt your response, which was forthcoming.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I will push back on that, minister. The concepts of the right tree in the right place and the right crop in the right place indicate a zonal approach. Are you in favour of a zonal approach?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I note that the learnings are part of that, but I think that the member was specifically asking about what the deal involved. We would be grateful to hear that detail if you can share it. A written letter to the committee would be absolutely perfect.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that Liam Kerr wants to come back in briefly.