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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I believe that Mercedes Villalba is going to speak to and move Rhoda Grant’s amendment 356 and speak to the other amendments in the group. Over to you, Mercedes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I should have welcomed Tim Eagle at the start of the meeting; I know that you will forgive me for that omission, Tim. I ask you to speak to amendment 486 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I welcome Ross Greer to the committee, as I think that this is the first time that he has spoken in the committee on this subject. I call Ross to speak to amendment 466 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Abstentions

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 1, Against 5, Abstentions 1.

Amendment 466 disagreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I will make a couple of comments before I call on the cabinet secretary to speak.

I am struggling to see why amendments 356 and 357, which relate to crofting, are required, as crofting has a fairly easy and understood way of purchasing land and determining the value of crofting land. The situation with common grazing becomes more complicated, as the common grazings might not be attached to people who are active crofters. The common grazings may be held by active crofters and non-active crofters. I think that those two amendments would add confusion.

I think that the cabinet secretary will be bringing forward a crofting bill, and my suggestion is that, if change is wanted to the multitude of pieces of crofting legislation, the place for that is in that legislation, rather than in the bill that is before us. I would be interested to hear what the cabinet secretary says on that.

I understand what Mark Ruskell is trying to achieve though amendment 355, but I do not understand the mechanical way of achieving it—in particular, giving a right to buy and determining whether to value the land based on the percentage that is unused or on the percentage that is used, which could penalise somebody who might only be able to use a percentage less than 50 per cent. How would that affect their property rights?

I am also concerned that we went through the whole of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill knowing that there was a consultation on the right to buy, which had not been fed in before we considered amendments to the right to buy in the bill. I think that that is flawed.

I am keen to hear what the cabinet secretary has to say. Now is your moment, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I ask Mark Ruskell to wind up and press or withdraw amendment 355.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Bob Doris wants to speak at this stage.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 470 disagreed to.

Amendments 471, 473 to 475 and 477 not moved.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Right; good. I had a question in my mind about whether we would move on to debate the next section of the bill, but there would then be a series of 10 votes that would take us beyond our 13:30 deadline, which would be unfair on members who are getting ready to speak in the chamber this afternoon. So, disappointingly for those who are in the swing of this and were ready to push on further and faster with the amendments, I will call a halt.

I remind members that, with the approval of the Parliamentary Bureau, we will be back here at 17:45 tomorrow evening for the next set of amendments. I will see you then.

Meeting closed at 13:20.