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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay, thank you. I thank the minister for attending today and giving those answers. I want to move to the next agenda item, if I may. Minister, I am sure that you will want to slip out to carry out your other duties while we consider the UK statutory instrument.

Our next item of business is to formally consider the type 1 consent notification sent by the Scottish Government relating to REACH (Amendment) Regulations 2023 in light of the evidence that we have just heard and the additional letters.

Before I go further, I remind members that, as a farmer, I use chemicals, so I have some knowledge of the chemical system—just so that there is no dubiety about that.

If members are content for consent to be given, the committee will write to the Scottish Government accordingly. In writing to the Scottish Government in that way, we have the option to pose questions or to ask to be kept up to date on relevant developments.

If the committee is not content with the proposal, we might have to make one of the several recommendations, which I could go through. Are there any comments from committee members on that point?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

As no other members want to make a comment, I now move to the substantive question for this item, which is whether the committee is content that the provision set out in the notification should be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument.

If we agree to that, we can write to the Scottish Government along the lines that have been suggested to say that we want to be kept informed of the pace of the change and of any review of chemicals in the future. I think that doing so would be useful. As part of that, we could—as the deputy convener suggested—write to Rebecca Pow to thank her for her prompt response and ask her to give a bit more detail and information on the alternative transitional registration and on what divergence means.

Are committee members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

The clerks are happy as well, so, now we know what we are doing.

I was going to pause the session to allow for a changeover of witnesses, but they changed over before we even had a chance to complete our business, so we will crack straight on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session with Circularity Scotland as part of our consideration of the deposit return scheme. I refer members to the papers for this item. Circularity Scotland will have a crucial role as the scheme administrator, and today’s session is about hearing more about that role and about overall preparedness for the scheme’s launch. I am pleased to welcome David Harris, the chief executive; Irene Steel, the chief finance officer; Simon Jones, the chief operating officer; and Donald McCalman, the programme director, all from Circularity Scotland. Thank you for accepting our invitation.

I also welcome Fergus Ewing, Maurice Golden and Brian Whittle, who are in attendance for this session. I will offer you a brief opportunity to ask your questions near the end of the session, so that committee members can ask their questions first.

I believe that David Harris would like to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I hear what you say, but if I was a convenience store in a local village, I am not sure that I would feel that I was getting the representation that I needed. I will come back to that, if I may, at the end.

The first set of questions comes from Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am slightly confused. Will you clarify the position so that I understand it? SEPA enforces regulations that the Parliament put in place. Are you saying that SEPA does not have to abide by those regulations? Can it apply them as it sees fit, if it thinks that an organisation is moving in the general direction that is wanted? That is not my understanding of how the law works, but is that what you are saying? I am interested in hearing you repeat the point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Brian, I was going to let you ask one further question, because everyone else had two.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Good luck in getting a quote for 2035. I suspect that that may prove difficult for connection to the grid.

The deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop, will now come in with some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

You can keep going, Liam. I will bring in Fiona Hyslop to ask some questions at the end.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

By all means go for it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I will bring you back in later, Mark, but the next questions come from Jackie Dunbar.