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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

This is pushing it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

If the existing infrastructure that we have for gas transmission cannot easily be converted for transmitting hydrogen, does that mean that there will be an important future for gas across the United Kingdom?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

If the gas pipeline network is to be used to transmit hydrogen, it will have to be transferred from a metal piping system to a poly piping one, for lack of a better description. I am interested in whether the Government is planning how it can assist in driving that transfer.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we leave the topic, I want to make it abundantly clear, as I have done in previous meetings, that as a farmer, I have transmission lines across my land—I have 11KV lines, 33KV lines and I am in negotiation with regard to a 132KV transmission line—so I have an interest in them.

However, I was interested in what you have highlighted with regard to the scale of power line building that we will have to do to meet our requirements. In the Highlands, there is an outcry at the moment about the latest lines that are coming through and the incredibly poor negotiation between Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks and the people on the ground. Do you think that work needs to be done to ensure that people understand the need for the lines, and do you think there is a better way of doing this than power companies simply using compulsory powers to go in and place the lines without proper consultation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session as part of our inquiry into Scotland’s electricity infrastructure: inhibitor or enabler of our energy ambitions.

On 21 March, the committee held its first evidence session with energy industry stakeholders and experts. We then heard from the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets, the statutory regulator for electricity markets in Great Britain. Since then, we have held an informal online event with energy entrepreneurs, which was really useful, and on Monday some committee members were in Glasgow and at Whitelee wind farm as guests of Scottish Power.

Today we will explore the intersection of devolved and reserved responsibilities in relation to Scotland’s future electricity infrastructure and I am pleased to welcome Andrew Bowie MP, the Minister for Nuclear and Networks at the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero in the United Kingdom Government, and Jeremy Allen, director of the energy portfolio office at the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero in the UK Government.

Thank you, Andrew, for accepting our invitation. We are delighted to have you here. I understand that you want to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I am not asking about that. I am asking about the general issue of taking people with us on the net zero journey and making sure that all involved buy in to the consultation. It cannot be too heavy handed.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

As you have mentioned, minister, we have discussed this matter with Ofgem, and one of the questions raised by others is whether its statutory duty should include the wording “achieving net zero”. Ofgem said that it did not need that, while other people said that it did. Do you have a view?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Those are all the questions that we have. Thank you for coming up here, minister. I know that you do not need any excuse to get closer to your home patch—for lack of a better description—but it is good to see you, to hear your answering questions that you might not have thought you were going to have to answer and to hear you doing so with openness. I appreciate your giving us your time, and I look forward to receiving correspondence on the areas on which you have undertaken to write to us. Our clerks will remind you of those areas after the meeting.

That is all that we have for you—thank you for your time. The committee will now go into private session.

15:05 Meeting continued in private until 15:21.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Those questions were slightly outwith the remit of today’s meeting, deputy convener, but I gave you a bit of leeway.

There are no further questions, so I will just make an observation. As we in Scotland move forward with our energy ambitions, I see that across Great Britain 32 per cent of the power comes from wind and 5.9 per cent from solar—obviously that is not hugely relevant up here, where we still rely on gas and a base load of nuclear from the UK or the French. We want to use renewable energy where we can, but we also want to be sure in our minds that the plans include having a base load that we can use if and when we need it across the UK.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I guess that it is an on-going situation.