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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 172 disagreed to.

Amendment 173 moved—[Tim Eagle].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 173 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 453 disagreed to.

Amendments 454 and 455 not moved.

Amendment 162 moved—[Mairi Gougeon]—and agreed to.

Amendment 161 moved—[Tim Eagle].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 525 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Abstentions

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Against

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 5, Against 2, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 159 agreed to.

Amendment 160 moved—[Mairi Gougeon].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 160 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I hear your point. Maybe we should put politicians’ offices into that group, too, so that they also pay rates. Maybe people would find that acceptable.

From my experience, I know that shooting estates do employ people—in fact, one has only to look at an estate such as Kinrara, which was taken over for nature conservation. It used to employ five full-time employees and a shepherd, but I think that at the moment it employs no one.

I do not think that I accept your argument, Mr Greer. I am interested to hear what the cabinet secretary says, but I am always mindful of the difficulty of bringing amendments to a committee that has spent a lot of time considering an issue when the matters in question have not been considered as part of the stage 1 evidence taking.

I will now hand over to the cabinet secretary.

11:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 17 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I have some sympathy with amendment 484, because I believe that it is trying to stop land banking in urban areas. Unfortunately, I do not think that this bill is the right place to do that. As you well know, given that it is the point that you are making, a landowner could just develop a car park on vacant land and not develop the rest of it, if that were feasible. My question is: how would you make amendment 484 fit for purpose? At the moment, I do not see that it is.